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Tael
2nd Rear Admiral
Palestar
Joined: July 03, 2002
Posts: 3697
From: San Francisco Bay Area
|  Posted: 2005-04-21 18:16
Demorian worked VERY hard on this document with a lot of help from Gideon... So NO FLAMING... Anyone flaming will have their beta stats zeroed for the whole stress test...
Keep an open mind, look through and give this revised system serious consideration.
This would spread the load out of the ships more evenly over the ranks, as it is now there are some ranks where you get nothing for attaining them.
All replys should be simple: Yes or NO (Yes i like this concept or No I dont like it)
You may then write a brief note as to any thoughts about this system. No flaming... No comments about other peoples posts or notes. Keep it civil.
This is a 24 hour discussion, I will need to make the changes bt 4pm Pacific Time if they are to be in for the stress test...
Without further adu, Demorians hard work:
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ICC:
Extractor : Midshipman
Sensor Corvette : Midshipman
Bomber Corvette : Midshipman
Recon Scout : Midshipman
Light Transport : Midshipman, Bronze Navigator
Sensor Frigate : Ensign
Attack Frigate : Ensign
Bomber Frigate : Ensign
Engineer : Ensign
Heavy Transport : 2nd Lieutenant, Bronze Transport
Engineer 2 : 2nd Lieutenant, Bronze Engineer
Engineer 3 : 1st Lieutenant, Bronze Engineer
Supply Ship : 1st Lieutenant
Screening Destroyer : Lieutenant Commander, Bronze Support
Missile Destroyer : Commander, Bronze Combat
Bomber Destroyer : Commander, Bronze Bomber
Heavy Supply Ship : Commander, Bronze Support
Combat Destroyer : Captain
Missile Cruiser : 2 Rear Admiral, Silver Combat
Carrier Cruiser : 2 Rear Admiral, Silver Support
Jump Cruiser : 2 Rear Admiral, Star Fury Medal
Heavy Cruiser : 1 Rear Admiral
Heavy Cruiser : 1 Rear Admiral
Interdictor Cruiser : 1 Rear Admiral
Jump Cruiser : 1 Rear Admiral, Star Fury Medal
Assault Cruiser : Vice Admiral, Silver Combat, Bronze Star
Command Carrier : Vice Admiral, Gold Support
Combat Dreadnought : Admiral
Bomber Dreadnought : Admiral, Gold Bomber
Assault Dreadnought : Fleet Admiral, Gold Combat
Support Station : Fleet Admiral, Gold Star
UGTO:
Attack Corvette : Midshipman
Bomber Corvette : Midshipman
Long Range Scout : Midshipman
Light Transport : Midshipman, Bronze Navigation
Extractor : Midshipman
Interceptor Frigate : Ensign
Bomber Frigate : Ensign
Engineer : Ensign
Heavy Transport : 2nd Lieutenant, Bronze Transport
Supply : 2nd Lieutenant
Heavy Engineer : 1st Lieutenant, Bronze Engineer
Harrier Frigate : 1st Lieutenant, Bronze Combat
Missile Destroyer : Lieutenant Commander
Gunboat Destroyer : Commander
Heavy Supply : Commander, Bronze Support
Assault Destroyer : Captain, Silver Combat
Missile Cruiser : 2nd Rear Admiral, Silver Combat
Interdictor Cruiser : 2nd Rear Admiral
Battle Cruiser : 1st Rear Admiral
Bomber Cruiser : 1st Rear Admiral
Torpedo Cruiser : Vice Admiral, Silver Combat, Bronze Star
Fleet Carrier : Vice Admiral, Gold Support
Battle Dreadnought : Admiral, Defense Medal
Command Dreadnought : Admiral
EA Dreadnought : Fleet Admiral, Gold Combat
Support Station : Fleet Admiral, Gold Star
K'luth:
Carrier : Midshipman
Talon Scout : Midshipman
Extruder Scout : Midshipman
Extractor : Midshipman
Worker : Ensign
Fang Scout : Ensign
Beak Frigate : Ensign
Nymph Frigate : Ensign, Bronze Combat
Drone Engineer : 2nd Lieutenant
Proboscis Frigate : 2nd Lieutenant
Advanced Worker : 1st Lieutenant, Bronze Support
Advanced Carrier : 1st Lieutenant
Stinger Destroyer : Lieutenant Commander
Shell Destroyer : Commander
Ultimate Worker : Commander, Silver Support
Claw Destroyer : Captain, Bronze Combat
Piercer Cruiser : 2nd Rear Admiral
Clavate Cruiser : 1st Rear Admiral
Scale Cruiser : Vice Admiral, Silver Combat
Ganglia Dreadnought : Admiral, Gold Support
Mandible Dreadnought : Admiral, Gold Combat
Siphon Dreadnought : Fleet Admiral, Gold Combat
Hive Station : Fleet Admiral, Gold Star
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BackSlash
Marshal
Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:23
Already read before...had several months to think over a few of em, and I spoke to Demorian before about a few, and I didnt agree with some of them at first, but...I do agree now.
Do it.
One thing I did bring up with Demorian, was the possibility to drop the lower-req supply ship down a few ranks, to midshipman or ensign, it would give the lower rankers something to do that is easy and allows them to learn more. But the convo was a long time ago and I cant remember how it ended. (sorry Dem)
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2005-04-21 18:32 ]
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$yTHe {C?}
Grand Admiral
Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: September 29, 2002
Posts: 1292
From: Arlington, VA
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:24
Yes, I like it. Btw, i think you spelled 'ado' wrong Tael...
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-Smokey-
Grand Admiral
Joined: October 22, 2004
Posts: 784
From: Florida
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:24
I Like it
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Abandoned Mind
Fleet Admiral
Joined: December 08, 2002
Posts: 130
From: Brattleboro, Vermont
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:27
I like it to.
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Ragglock
Marshal
BIOnics Industry Syndicate
Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 1955
From: Denmark
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:30
yes: looks fine
note:
Kluth drone enginer should be at Ensign
dont they need a lvl 1 enginer ?
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Bobamelius
Grand Admiral
Galactic Navy
Joined: October 08, 2002
Posts: 2074
From: Ohio
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:31
This makes a great deal of sense.
I say Yes.
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NiteHawk
Fleet Admiral
Joined: September 16, 2001
Posts: 209
From: Sag Hothha
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:32
Yes, though I dont think the dreads should req a Fleet Admiral. I guess it's your call. Guess people will work harder:)
And you have to put into play the new stations right? GA for stations? *Shivers*
[ This Message was edited by: NiteHawk on 2005-04-21 18:34 ]
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Drafell
Grand Admiral
Mythica
Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 2449
From: United Kingdom
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:34
Some people will be annoyed at the changes and losing 'access' to some ships, but to be honest it looks pretty goo and a lot more evenly distributed.
Where does the new Agincourt and the old UGTO Carrier fit into this? Also can we have the lists updated with the new Stations as well, although I believe the stations are all GA class ships anyway.
It has my vote.
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NiteHawk
Fleet Admiral
Joined: September 16, 2001
Posts: 209
From: Sag Hothha
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:35
Yes I like it, minus the stronger dreads requiring Fleet Admiral.
Forgot the fact now that there is newer stations as well.
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Enterprise
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Raven Warriors
Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:36
I would agree with everything there except the requirements for the EAD/AD. While it makes a great deal of sense to do so, I still feel it should remain Admiral, since their not really worth that amount of effort to use.
Bump it down to AD, and perhaps make Req. Something nasty like Gold Star.
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Fleet Admiral Busby
Fleet Admiral
Joined: October 15, 2004
Posts: 239
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:38
no it wil make new people get all screaming and crazy and make them Spam the fourms about it i think we should keep the Current requirements
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NiteHawk
Fleet Admiral
Joined: September 16, 2001
Posts: 209
From: Sag Hothha
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:39
That's a good idea ent. I like that
Bump down the dreads to Admiral with a Gold Star.. And how will the new stations go into play?:p
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Erk
Grand Admiral
Joined: October 14, 2003
Posts: 40
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:42
Now i'm just saying i aint flaming just saying is it really right to keep mids from using frigates? But other than that i give it thumbs up. =)
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NiteHawk
Fleet Admiral
Joined: September 16, 2001
Posts: 209
From: Sag Hothha
| Posted: 2005-04-21 18:44
True Wee..
I say put one Frigate per faction.. Just so they can feel the slight bit of power.. If you limit everything to Scouts and say "TRY IT OUT!" No ones going to bother.
Also about engineers. How will any of the little ones learn to build? (Specially on the newb server wheere people test the game out..) Keep the midship..
[ This Message was edited by: NiteHawk on 2005-04-21 18:46 ]
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