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GunsOfHonor Fleet Admiral
Joined: July 31, 2011 Posts: 191
| Posted: 2012-05-29 19:46  
From what i see right now this could be a little OP seeing as it has longer range than any laser standard even farther than Pulse shield which could give them a huge advantage over ICC Long range Missile tactics preferred against UGTO by many ICC Pilots
if someone could shed some light on my doubts as true or just false
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Bardiche Chief Marshal
Joined: November 16, 2006 Posts: 1247
| Posted: 2012-05-29 22:04  
Probably very alpha. Don't think it'll make it to release as-is, so no need to get panties in a knot.
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GunsOfHonor Fleet Admiral
Joined: July 31, 2011 Posts: 191
| Posted: 2012-05-29 22:15  
Not in a knot more like a wad but close enough
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NoBoDx Grand Admiral
Joined: October 14, 2003 Posts: 784 From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2012-05-30 02:47  
my 2 pennies:
those lasers should have a massive falloff ( laser weapons deal damage by hitting a very smal point with as much energy as possible, and the bigger the distance, the bigger the affected point ->less energy on any effected area)
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[ML]RogueAvengerTTV Marshal
Joined: September 11, 2010 Posts: 300 From: England
| Posted: 2012-05-30 04:24  
just a thought there in game function is to kill fighters so having long range and low damage would make sence after all isnt it just like ICC pulse beams they can obliterate missile/fighters in seconds with 2/3 you can stop maybe 16+ harpex from reaching there target isnt that OP? no because those weapons have been around since the dawn of time but if they were to be added now and no faction had them? sure people would say there OP. just my view.
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seyyah Grand Admiral
Joined: April 01, 2010 Posts: 46
| Posted: 2012-05-30 07:35  
give pulse beams more range(400gu) too and ECLs wont be OP anymore
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Pantheon Marshal Palestar
Joined: May 29, 2001 Posts: 1789
| Posted: 2012-05-30 07:41  
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On 2012-05-30 07:35, Roukanken wrote:
give pulse beams more range(400gu) too and ECLs wont be OP anymore
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Two different weapons.
ECL has a long cooldown, uses a lot of energy.
Pulse Beam has barely any cooldown, uses no energy.
That's why the ranges are different - just because one has a longer range doesn't make it 'op'. Please test before giving feedback.
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Enterprise Chief Marshal Raven Warriors
Joined: May 19, 2002 Posts: 2576 From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2012-05-30 08:30  
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On 2012-05-30 07:41, Pantheon wrote:
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On 2012-05-30 07:35, Roukanken wrote:
give pulse beams more range(400gu) too and ECLs wont be OP anymore
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Two different weapons.
ECL has a long cooldown, uses a lot of energy.
Pulse Beam has barely any cooldown, uses no energy.
That's why the ranges are different - just because one has a longer range doesn't make it 'op'. Please test before giving feedback.
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A thousand, million times this.
Preferrably, ECL's will be able to take down fighters and missiles from great range, but at a great cost - its not going to take down a bunch of missiles easy and it won't be able to do it forever.
Its supposed to be anti-fighter, therefore the long cooldown and high energy is supposed to make UGTO players consider this alternative for this reason. The other factions I have noticed, use fighters on a repeat basis so there is ample room for their use.
For missiles, it will not be as effective. Missiles should be able to overwhelm ECL spam without having to go to extremes to do so. Yes, you can PD from far away but you're going to be screwed eventually.
Keep this in mind when you test. If it feels like its too easy to PD missiles with a single ship from extreme range, then please send that feedback. I'll personally be in the Beta server (when its up) to test with folks and ensure that this gadget is well balanced.
-Ent
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GunsOfHonor Fleet Admiral
Joined: July 31, 2011 Posts: 191
| Posted: 2012-05-30 11:46  
With all this saying its for fighters can we get an extension on the pulse beams range at the cost of Energy or something because the ECL's sure cost alot but still have more range the ICC farthest PD defense so can we maybe extend the pusle Beam a little maybe to 200 or 250
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CM7 Midshipman Faster than Light
Joined: October 15, 2009 Posts: 1812
| Posted: 2012-05-30 17:34  
ecl.
Once i see how many missiles a single ecl, which i cant imagine would be more than two, ill make my mind up.
A single pulse beam can shoot down 3 to 4 missiles before they impact.
So i dont believe were looking at total equality with icc. Just better than what they had.
This is not a bad thing.
I just wish it were not affective vs fighters. Kinda puts icc fighters back to befor the change when figters would fly strait in to a target and get shot down.
But ugto needs something in that department and i cant think of better.
The damage output of ecl seems to be prety low, but not insignifigant like pulse beams.
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GunsOfHonor Fleet Admiral
Joined: July 31, 2011 Posts: 191
| Posted: 2012-05-30 23:41  
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On 2012-05-30 17:34, Defiance*CO* wrote:
ecl.
Once i see how many missiles a single ecl, which i cant imagine would be more than two, ill make my mind up.
A single pulse beam can shoot down 3 to 4 missiles before they impact.
So i dont believe were looking at total equality with icc. Just better than what they had.
This is not a bad thing.
I just wish it were not affective vs fighters. Kinda puts icc fighters back to befor the change when figters would fly strait in to a target and get shot down.
But ugto needs something in that department and i cant think of better.
The damage output of ecl seems to be prety low, but not insignifigant like pulse beams.
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| I agree with your statement completely but you a pusle beam can shoot a 3 or 4 missiles that depends on the ship ur in
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