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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
|  Posted: 2010-08-26 03:15
I was just thinking, what would be a good tool for the UGTO and ICC to find cloaked ships?
So I tht, why not add a new device to the Anti-sensor scout, and escort/picket dessies.
Taking a leaf from anti-submarine warfare. They have helos which dip active sonar domes... or even drop disposable active sonar buoys, into the water to locate subs.
We have an equivalent to the dipping sonar, with ECCM. The pinging does what it's supposed to do.
I was thinking, how about giving the picket and scouts a new device? Something like how a minelayer drops mines, they can drop a single device, sort of like the equivalent of the buoy I mentioned above.
This buoy could have a lifespan of a few minutes. It will ping at 15 sec intervals, and have a cumalative ECCM effect. By pinging, it can temporarily expose cloaked vessels at a radius of 500gus. The deploying ship only carries 10 of these devices and can drop only 3 or 4 at a time. If he wants to drop the next one after that, he has to detonate one of the existing buoys. Buoys will also be minimally armored and easily destroyed.
Of course, I don't know whether such an object can be easily programmed or not. It's not a missile/fighter object, and it's not a plat. So how feasible is this?
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Shigernafy
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| Posted: 2010-08-26 03:47
Not terribly...
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DiepLuc
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| Posted: 2010-08-26 04:17
Are you talking about the signal flare which paints the ship it hit with phosphorous. The phosphorous will shine for about 10 seconds.
Something like that?
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-08-26 04:20
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On 2010-08-26 04:17, chlorophyll wrote:
Are you talking about the signal flare which paints the ship it hit with phosphorous. The phosphorous will shine for about 10 seconds.
Something like that?
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Not really. Just a buoy that pings.
But like Shig says... not terribly feasible, so LOL.
It's not like I didn't try. 
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DiepLuc
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| Posted: 2010-08-26 05:07
I don't like a "sensor laying" ship.
Personally, I prefer flare that paints ship. That way, nothing affects cloak, still there is truce to trace and shoot.
Assuming "Revolutionary cloak" comes in game, I think beacon would be replaced by the flare I mentioned above.
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Lark of Serenity
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| Posted: 2010-08-26 07:19
fix SSR and its the same thing?
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-08-26 09:00
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On 2010-08-26 07:19, Lark of Serenity wrote:
fix SSR and its the same thing?
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Yes I tht of that too. When I was playing ICC, I replaced all the fighters on my CD with SSRs. But they don't really work that great. They don't take orders very well, and they take ages to launch.
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Lark of Serenity
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| Posted: 2010-08-26 17:44
A) no fighters take orders atm =P
B) to my understanding their ECCM is actually broken and doesnt do anything, no ping or raising sig
C) if fixed and made to ping (aside: planets need to ping), would be very nice.
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Reznor
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| Posted: 2010-08-26 17:49
Last I tried SRR (a few months ago) they were actually useful for recon. Don't know if they pinged on launch (I would assume thier ECCM is "turned on" when they launch, therefore pinging) , but they would detect UGTO ships quite well.
I'm not sure if they've broken since then tho.
Not sure how possible it would be, but why not have SRR turn it's ECCM on and off. It's a decent tradoff: they have no weapons, are easily shot down, and take forever to relaunch. But they make a big difference, even when defending a planet, a carrier cruiser can spot for the planet itself.
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The_Enforcer (The Vindicator)
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| Posted: 2010-08-27 07:20
but what about EWAS?
dont use them as much since my BD allready has a ECCM on, but do they work?
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Lark of Serenity
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| Posted: 2010-08-27 22:26
really all ECCM should ping at regular intervals over a brief activation period, e.g. 30 seconds of pinging every 3 seconds or something. and should be much more dramatically limited by ship (e.g. no ECCM on dreads, keep it on destroyers, frigates, and scouts)
if this is done then ECCM fighter slots should be limited, since the UGTO carrier or a station could then theoretically ping the bajeezers out of things. i was thinking making them a special fighter class and then introducing them to certain ships, e.g. missile cruisers, combat cruisers, support station, would make sense.
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SpaceAdmiral
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| Posted: 2010-08-27 22:38
carrier dreads have 2 extra fighter slots so it wouldnt ping much more than a bd
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