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Drafell
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Mythica
Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 2449
From: United Kingdom
|  Posted: 2007-06-22 19:09
Ship Layout Changes: ICC
ICC Recon Scout - Done
Remove: 1x ECM (Fore), 1x ECCM (Fore)
Add: 1x Pulse Beam (Full)
ICC Sensor Corvette - Done
No Change
ICC Stealth Corvette - Done
Change: 1x Sabot (Fore) > (Fore/Left)
1x Sabot (Fore) > (Fore/Right)
ICC Assault Frigate - Done
Add: 1x AR Missile (Fore)
Change: 1x Railgun (Fore) > (Fore/Left)
1x Railgun (Fore) > (Fore/Right)
1x AR Missile (Left/Fore/Right) > (Fore)
1x IT Missile (Fore) > (Fore/Left)
1x IT Missile (Fore) > (Fore/Right)
ICC Bomber Frigate - Done
No Change
ICC Sensor Frigate - Done
Remove: 1x ECCM (Fore)
Add: 1x Guass Cannon (Fore)
ICC Minelayer Frigate - Done
Add: 1x Pulse Beam (Left/Aft/Right)
ICC Combat Destroyer - Done
Remove: 2x IT Missile (Fore)
Add: 1x Railgun (Fore)
1x AR Missile (Fore/Left)
1x AR Missile (Fore/Right)
Change: 1x Railgun (Fore/Left) > (Fore/Left/Aft)
1x Railgun (Fore/Right) > (Fore/Right/Aft)
ICC Missile Destroyer - Done
Change: 1x AR Missile (Left/Aft/Right) > (Left/Fore/Right)
1x IT Missile (Left/Aft/Right) > (Fore/Left)
1x IT Missile (Left) > (Fore)
1x IT Missile (Right) > (Fore)
1x IT Missile (Left/Fore/Right) > (Fore/Right)
ICC Escort Destroyer - Done
Remove: 1x Railgun (Left/Aft)
Add: 1x Beacon (Fore)
Change: 1x Railgun (Right/Aft) > (Left/Aft/Right)
ICC Minelayer Destroyer - Done
Remove: 1x Nuke Mine (Full)
ICC Bomber Destroyer - Done
No Change
ICC Assault Cruiser - Done
Add: 2x Standard CL (Fore)
1x Fusion Torpedo (Fore)
ICC Heavy Cruiser - Done
Add: 1x Railgun (Fore/Left)
1x Railgun (Fore/Right)
1x AR Missile (Fore)
ICC Border Cruiser - Done
Remove: 1x Fusion Torpedo (Fore/Left)
1x Fusion Torpedo (Fore/Right)
1x IT Missile (Fore)
1x IT Missile (Left/Aft/Right)
1x Railgun (Left/Aft)
1x Railgun (Right/Aft)
1x Railgun (Fore/Left)
1x Railgun (Fore/Right)
Add: 1x Standard CL (Left/Fore/Right)
1x Gauss Cannon (Left/Fore/Right)
1x Gauss Cannon (Fore/Left/Aft)
1x Gauss Cannon (Fore/Right/Aft)
1x SRR Fighter (Full)
1x ECCM (Fore)
Change: 2x Standard CL (Full) > 2x Pulse Beam (Full)
*Currently using F29 fighters instead of SRR until we adjust fighter configs.
ICC Wormhole Cruiser - Done
Disable.
ICC Interdictor Cruiser - Done
Remove: 2x Auxiliary Reactor (Aft)
1x Railgun (Left/Aft)
1x Railgun (Right/Aft)
Add: 1x Gauss Cannon (Fore/Left)
1x Gauss Cannon (Fore/Right)
Change: 1x AR Missile (Fore) > (Fore/Left)
1x AR Missile (Fore) > (Fore/Right)
ICC Carrier Cruiser - Done
Remove: 1x Standard Armor (Left)
1x Standard Armor (Right)
1x Pulse Wave (Aft)
Add: 1x Railgun (Left/Fore/Right)
1x Standard CL (Fore/Left)
1x Standard CL (Fore/Right)
1x Standard CL (Left/Aft)
1x Standard CL (Right/Aft)
1x Scanner (Fore)
1x Auxiliary Shield Generator (Full)
2x Auxiliary Reactor (Aft)
1x IT Missile (Fore/Left)
1x IT Missile (Fore/Right)
Change: 2x Standard CL (Full) > 2x Pulse Beam (Full)
Standard Armor (Aft) > (Left/Aft/Right)
ICC Missile Cruiser - Done
Remove: 1x AR Missile (Left/Aft/Right)
1x IT Missile (Left/Aft/Right)
1x Standard CL (Left/Fore/Right)
1x Standard CL (Left)
1x Standard CL (Right)
1x Auxiliiary Reactor (Aft)
Change: 1x PCM (Left/Aft/Right) > (Left/Fore/Right)
1x IT Missile (Left) > (Fore/Left)
1x IT Missile (Right) > (Fore/Right)
1x AR Missile (Left) > (Fore/Left)
1x AR Missile (Right) > (Fore/Right)
ICC Jump Cruiser - Done
Remove: 1x Standard Armor (Aft)
1x Railgun (Left/Aft)
1x Railgun (Right/Aft)
1x Fusion Torpedo (Fore)
Add: 1x Railgun (Left/Fore/Right)
[small][ This Message was edited by: Drafell on 2007-07-08 06:07 ][/small]
[ This Message was edited by: Drafell on 2007-07-13 04:58 ]
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Sixkiller
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| Posted: 2007-06-23 03:58
im not to fond of the combat dessy looking at it
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Doran
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From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2007-06-23 10:27
i dont think i need to point out that these changes are not set in stone (yet) and can be changed after testing once beta goes live.
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BackSlash
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Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003
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From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2007-06-23 12:20
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On 2007-06-23 10:27, Doran wrote:
i dont think i need to point out that these changes are not set in stone (yet) and can be changed after testing once beta goes live.
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Absolutely - the Border Cruiser might not even make it into 1.484.
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Axianda The Royal
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Joined: November 20, 2001
Posts: 4273
From: Axianda
| Posted: 2007-06-23 14:23
what took my eye was that almost all of the Missile based ships are going back to mainly front mounted fire.
IMO i love this, it made em good line ships that needed some time to make the U turn and retreat.
is this going to be for all the missile based ships? *ICC UGTO and Bugs*
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Don Nukey of ICC *CO*
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From: Zeebrugge, belgium
| Posted: 2007-06-23 15:23
suggestion for engineership:
we got 3 engineer ships in my opinion 2 are more then enough
-light version with 1 buildpod and just shields and limited armament
-heavy engi with 2 buildpods , rmr and shields and standard armament like the current engi
then for the command dread it should also have 2 build pods and so does the command station with 2 reloads
and the support station should have 4 to 6 reloads
i hope this will make building less boring
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| Posted: 2007-06-24 09:40
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On 2007-06-23 12:20, BackSlash *Jack* wrote:
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On 2007-06-23 10:27, Doran wrote:
i dont think i need to point out that these changes are not set in stone (yet) and can be changed after testing once beta goes live.
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Absolutely - the Border Cruiser might not even make it into 1.484.
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No!
No!
I <3 the Border Cruiser.
and I'll make sure Coeus and I give these ships a good run through.
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Smartin
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From: Michigan
| Posted: 2007-06-24 11:55
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On 2007-06-23 15:23, Fatal Nukey *ADM* wrote:
suggestion for engineership:
we got 3 engineer ships in my opinion 2 are more then enough
-light version with 1 buildpod and just shields and limited armament
-heavy engi with 2 buildpods , rmr and shields and standard armament like the current engi
then for the command dread it should also have 2 build pods and so does the command station with 2 reloads
and the support station should have 4 to 6 reloads
i hope this will make building less boring
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2 builds? I think building is fine the way it is. Takes time, but can pay off.
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| Posted: 2007-06-24 12:46
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On 2007-06-24 09:40, Crim wrote:
No!
No!
I <3 the Border Cruiser.
and I'll make sure Coeus and I give these ships a good run through.
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Unfortunately, it fills no real roll, and is basicly a HC with little changed. ICC have far too many cruisers, and if we can't make up the numbers or find ways to build more ships into the other factions - there will be cuts made. There are simply far too many cruisers on the ICC side though.
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| Posted: 2007-06-27 00:26
Actually the ICC have so many cruisers because originally they focused on Destroyers and cruisers for the bulk of their fleets and the UGTO focused on larger heavier ships... Hence their EAD supposidly being the best...
I am beginning to change the ship layouts, but it will be a couple of days before I check the changes in and let them roll out to beta.
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Drafell
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| Posted: 2007-06-27 00:56
I have already completed doing the changes above...
The only ship that has been actually been removed so far is the Wormhole Cruiser, as it doesn't fulfill much of a role under the new rules (changes to Wormhole ranges and server configuration effectively render it pointless).
It might be reinstated in some form at a later date, but for now it is simpler to remove it while we work on other updates.
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Veronw
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| Posted: 2007-06-27 00:59
why not just give ugto and kluth another dreadnaught? like minor support ships....like a UGTO Support Dread...or something.....
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| Posted: 2007-07-16 10:56
about that wh cruiser, i noticed it comes in handy to evac ships incase of a enemy dictor, even if its only say 100k wh range it still would be made useful.
also one other thing im worry about is rail guns, compairing to the partical, and psi cannons there weaker and easier to dodge, well they be getting a power boost, and a speed boost?
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| Posted: 2007-07-16 14:10
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On 2007-07-16 10:56, Borgie wrote:
about that wh cruiser, i noticed it comes in handy to evac ships incase of a enemy dictor, even if its only say 100k wh range it still would be made useful.
also one other thing im worry about is rail guns, compairing to the partical, and psi cannons there weaker and easier to dodge, well they be getting a power boost, and a speed boost?
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WH cruiser is being removed for balance reasons. The other two factions don't have one, and it serves no real purpose. ICC have far too many cruisers as well.
Railguns have zero fall off over range - so they do far more if you can hit someone. They also use zero energy.
You have to remember ICC aren't a damage faction - their weapons do the LEAST damage of all three factions. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't be playing as ICC.
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Don Nukey of ICC *CO*
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From: Zeebrugge, belgium
| Posted: 2007-07-17 05:28
well thats gonna be bad for action then if we dont do a lot of damage and we dont have the numbers already to counter most attacks.
basicly icc is screwed for battles
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