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_x$witchBladex_ [1.480 Fanboy]
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Joined: February 26, 2003
Posts: 849
From: Upstate New York
|  Posted: 2006-07-25 10:52
Alright, this will probably get flamed because I thought of it in one of those morning hazes, but what ever...So here it is.
Everyone knows that there are Railguns, Psi Cannons, and Particle Cannons. From my entire time playing Darkspace (3 years, woot!), I have noticed that there is always only one cannon everyone uses. Back in version 1.480 through 1.482 everyone used Psi Cannons. Now currently in 1.483 everyone uses particle cannons. Now I am sure you have noticed that there is a problem with no one ever using the railgun (from my experience at least) or using a mix of weapons for any reason, leaving the others useless.
My suggestion? Make it so each cannon is more effective vs. different things. These are just rough ideas so please state your personal views about it.
- Railguns more effective vs. UGTO Armour than other cannons
- Particle Cannons more effective vs. Kluth Armour
- Psi Cannons more effective vs. Shields
Now I am sure you all found a problem with this or have a better idea about it, so please give some feedback.
~Switch
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NeoHermes (vigilance)
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Joined: September 29, 2003
Posts: 217
From: Floating around somewhere
| Posted: 2006-07-25 11:05
man, i think i've seeen this before.
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Lux (Polaris)
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Joined: April 20, 2004
Posts: 835
From: Asgard
| Posted: 2006-07-25 11:18
Actually, I'd still use all PSIs, if only I could get my hands on some...
It's an idea that's fine with me, Switch.
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NeoHermes (vigilance)
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From: Floating around somewhere
| Posted: 2006-07-25 12:14
fine with me as well. looks familiar.
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Light-of-Aurora
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Joined: December 01, 2003
Posts: 602
From: NJ, USA
| Posted: 2006-07-25 12:46
I think it's a great idea!
I've never seen it before >.>
But I like the idea 
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BackSlash
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Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-07-25 13:05
No, no, no. This is wrong. You see, all that will acomplish is people going "Lets equip so and so and go to kluth space", which will result in flames, whines, and all sorts.
The trick is in making them so they are balanaced for each race, unfortunatly, they also have to stay true to faction design.
Railguns - Use no energy, but have ammo. Perfect for ICC who need energy for shields.
Particle Cannons - No ammo, medium range, medium damage. Perfect for UGTO, the medium weapon.
PsiCannon - No ammo, highest damage, highest energy use. Perfect for Kluth, trying to get the most damage in few hits.
Psi cannons do more damage until half way through the battle, at which point particle cannons win the rest. The only reason Railguns dont come into it is because they are NOT designed for damage because ICC are a defencive faction.
The only reason everyone uses particle cannons is because of the extra range, and the damage over time. That's all.
In 1.484, all cannons will be locked to their respected factions, so you will be forced to use your faction tech. That way it's easier to balance the game, and people can start flying their faction for what they where DESIGNED for, not what they want it designed for.
Again, faction tech will be LOCKED. You will no longer be able to equip AM torps on an ICC ship. Faustus was toying with the idea that if you pick it up from a ship (randomchance), then you can equip it from cargo, but honesty, I'm quite content with keeping it as faction locked. It's FAR more easier to balance, and we'll see people using ships for what they where designed for.
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2006-07-25 13:07 ]
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Coeus
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Joined: March 22, 2006
Posts: 2815
From: Philly
| Posted: 2006-07-25 17:45
I think the idea of if you loot it you can equip it...
Brings the big time MMORPG feel to this little town, but it will only work if we keep the current modding system and lose that whole "5 hull point respawn" garbage.
The game only works with EZ modding or EZ respawn, not both.
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_x$witchBladex_ [1.480 Fanboy]
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Joined: February 26, 2003
Posts: 849
From: Upstate New York
| Posted: 2006-07-25 20:18
Well I know a ton of people aren't happy with the whole "you can no longer decide what to mod your ship with" idea, since that was one of the best parts of the whole game because it gave you freedom.
~Switch
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BackSlash
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Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-07-25 20:31
It also made the game hard to balance, and there where people moding ships for what they where not designed to do, because they where better that way, and in doing so, it breaks the game.
Once we have the basics balanced, we have a platform we can work up from. Add new weapons to each factions. Nothing uber, just different.
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2006-07-25 20:59 ]
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_x$witchBladex_ [1.480 Fanboy]
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From: Upstate New York
| Posted: 2006-07-26 01:03
That is understandable, but I am fairly certain many people will leave because of this inability to custom mod ships which DS has allowed for awhile now. You gotta understand that there is a possibility that it might deliver a deadly blow to the community.
~Switch
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BackSlash
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Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-07-26 01:14
And I believe many more have left because of the inbalances.
We've already had a deadly blow. Or can you not see that?
Opening up the game to moding this much has killed it. They're not restricting moding in 1.484, they're just locking faction tech. You can still switch beams for flux cannons if your UGTO or pulse if your ICC. You can still swap IT's for AR's. You just cant swap P torps for AM torps, or F torps. Or CL's for pulse if your UGTO and such.
This allows the developers to balance the game much, much more. And that is what we need.
We don't need people finding ways to unbalance the game with custom mods.
Think about it. EVERY, SINGLE, FREAKING unfair ship in this game for the past 100 versions has been from moding a ship past what it was supposed to be. It's easier this way, and will allow people to have more fun. If we have to lose 20 people because they stopped cross faction tech, then so be it. I'm sure DarkSpace will regain many more than just 20 when we have a balanced version of the game.
Moding breaks the game. I used to agree that moding = teh shirts. But now, it's become apparent to me that it's caused problems in ever single version since they enabled it.
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2006-07-26 01:17 ]
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_x$witchBladex_ [1.480 Fanboy]
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From: Upstate New York
| Posted: 2006-07-26 01:28
Damn...you got me 
~Switch
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