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Bitopherous
1st Lieutenant
Joined: June 07, 2004
Posts: 264
From: Bottom of the pile
|  Posted: 2006-03-08 22:35
Suggestion from a player, not an admin:
With a new version (a purportedly radically new version), how about another new rank? Before (for those who do not remember/know), the ranking system only went up to Fleet Admiral; when 1.481 was released, the prestige requirement for a new rank was added (something like 81920) and Grand Admiral was created.
How about another new rank (since there has been a boom in prestige gained lately) to go on top of Grand Admiral? There are quite a few people at or above the 163840 prestige range, and with the proposed addition of the privateer badge to the profiles, this might make another welcome change.
Bito
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BackSlash
Marshal
Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-03-08 22:42
If anything, I'd like to see prestige gain made harder, and those who bomb-whored their way to high ranks, put back to where they should be. That should sort the problem out.
Seeing as only a handfull of people have GA, I don't really think there's a need for ANOTHER rank. But hey, it ain't my game!
Also, only these guys can have that rank, of which only a hand-full play.
1 Coombie Grand Admiral 425023
2 Nim*FL* Grand Admiral 320663
3 Sheng(Allied) Grand Admiral 320272
4 Armand Grand Admiral 308800
5 Topbum (Eng)-allied- Grand Admiral 265565
6 Ragglock Grand Admiral 238710
7 Starfist Grand Admiral 233201
8 Teager Grand Admiral 214379
9 TAXI *CS* Grand Admiral 207616
10 Bumblebee Grand Admiral 206638
11 Doran Grand Admiral 181755
12 Piotr-san Grand Admiral 179062
13 Quissy {C?} Grand Admiral 175719
14 Darksworde Grand Admiral 174257
15 Patlukowsky Grand Admiral 173801
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* [R33] on 2006-03-08 22:48 ]
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JRE
Grand Admiral
Joined: August 14, 2003
Posts: 571
| Posted: 2006-03-08 23:47
Um, unless you Bomb whore in the mv attaining even GA rank is going to take an uber ammount of time for new people. Adding another rank, all that does is give a new rank to the handfull of peeps with an insane ammount of pres. Adding new features throughout the ranking stucture would be better for everyone and not create a seemingly near impossible goal for people just starting out in the game or heck even people who played for awhile.
As far as what features? I dont know thats another subject.
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JRE
Grand Admiral
Joined: August 14, 2003
Posts: 571
| Posted: 2006-03-08 23:53
Speaking of new features, just a thought, how about instead of a new rank, an ability section of the profile is added. For example, for combat, the more pts you have in combat the more accurate missles/torps/ect are and have maybe a bonus to that as you get medals??
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Drafell
Grand Admiral
Mythica
Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 2449
From: United Kingdom
| Posted: 2006-03-11 07:41
The next logical ranks would be:
Vice Marshal
Fleet Marshal
Chief Marshal
Anything above these would be political appointments and part of the Command/Influence structure, and as such are not related to the Prestige ranking system.
On this note, making all of the 'Command' class stations a Vice Marshal requirement would be a good move (if these additional ranks are implemented).
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Ants
Chief Marshal
Joined: February 11, 2005
Posts: 315
From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-11 22:44
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On 2006-03-08 22:42, BackSlash wrote:
If anything, I'd like to see prestige gain made harder, and those who bomb-whored their way to high ranks, put back to where they should be. That should sort the problem out.
Seeing as only a handfull of people have GA, I don't really think there's a need for ANOTHER rank. But hey, it ain't my game!
Also, only these guys can have that rank, of which only a hand-full play.
1 Coombie Grand Admiral 425023
2 Nim*FL* Grand Admiral 320663
3 Sheng(Allied) Grand Admiral 320272
4 Armand Grand Admiral 308800
5 Topbum (Eng)-allied- Grand Admiral 265565
6 Ragglock Grand Admiral 238710
7 Starfist Grand Admiral 233201
8 Teager Grand Admiral 214379
9 TAXI *CS* Grand Admiral 207616
10 Bumblebee Grand Admiral 206638
11 Doran Grand Admiral 181755
12 Piotr-san Grand Admiral 179062
13 Quissy {C?} Grand Admiral 175719
14 Darksworde Grand Admiral 174257
15 Patlukowsky Grand Admiral 173801
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* [R33] on 2006-03-08 22:48 ]
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I must say he has a good point. but the point of adding a new rank is also good idea in a way.
But what it comes down to is Alot of Play in .483 dont care about pres anymore me included because we worked had to get what we ad to see ppl just do one role for a month to get the same pres... So I go with Jack and i vote with jack to put these players where they should be... or even reset all ranks and stats to pre .483
Yes i know its not or cant be done 
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Light-of-Aurora
Grand Admiral
Joined: December 01, 2003
Posts: 602
From: NJ, USA
| Posted: 2006-03-11 23:51
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On 2006-03-11 22:44, Fatal Ants *XO1* wrote:
But what it comes down to is Alot of Play in .483 dont care about pres anymore me included because we worked had to get what we ad to see ppl just do one role for a month to get the same pres... So I go with Jack and i vote with jack to put these players where they should be... or even reset all ranks and stats to pre .483
Yes i know its not or cant be done
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That''d be mean to all post .483 made accounts, you big meanie!
Why not add ranks between AD-FA and FA-GA, the gap between them is so large :/
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lightning[Voyager][ A ]
Cadet
Joined: August 04, 2004
Posts: 419
From: CANADA. QUEBEC
| Posted: 2006-03-12 03:05
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On 2006-03-11 07:41, Drafell {R33} wrote:
The next logical ranks would be:
Vice Marshal
Fleet Marshal
Chief Marshal
Anything above these would be political appointments and part of the Command/Influence structure, and as such are not related to the Prestige ranking system.
On this note, making all of the 'Command' class stations a Vice Marshal requirement would be a good move (if these additional ranks are implemented).
[ This Message was edited by: Drafell {R33} on 2006-03-11 07:44 ]
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I agree with your idea, i guess it would give a certain logic to have this rank with this station
[ This Message was edited by: lightning[Voyager][ R33 ] on 2006-03-12 03:14 ]
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Malorn
1st Rear Admiral
Joined: December 11, 2003
Posts: 42
From: USA Eastern Time
| Posted: 2006-03-12 08:29
Heck, if we are so worried about the bomb whores, (Whom I have to admit annoy the hell out of me.) Let's all vote and decide if everyone gets reset when it switches to 1.484. After all, Jack and the others could use a new challenge, and it help attract new players, since everyone wouldn't be so much higher then them.
And it would be rather hard for anyone to say it was unfair, unless perhaps the grand admirals. And they, after all, are far to fair-minded to say such things. 
Let the flaming, insults and screaming begin. Or not, if by some mischance people have learned how to be polite on forums again.
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Bitopherous
1st Lieutenant
Joined: June 07, 2004
Posts: 264
From: Bottom of the pile
| Posted: 2006-03-12 21:03
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On 2006-03-11 22:44, Fatal Ants *XO1* wrote:
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On 2006-03-08 22:42, BackSlash wrote:
1 Coombie Grand Admiral 425023
2 Nim*FL* Grand Admiral 320663
3 Sheng(Allied) Grand Admiral 320272
4 Armand Grand Admiral 308800
5 Topbum (Eng)-allied- Grand Admiral 265565
6 Ragglock Grand Admiral 238710
7 Starfist Grand Admiral 233201
8 Teager Grand Admiral 214379
9 TAXI *CS* Grand Admiral 207616
10 Bumblebee Grand Admiral 206638
11 Doran Grand Admiral 181755
12 Piotr-san Grand Admiral 179062
13 Quissy {C?} Grand Admiral 175719
14 Darksworde Grand Admiral 174257
15 Patlukowsky Grand Admiral 173801
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... or even reset all ranks and stats to pre .483
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This would actually bump a few people up to this group (me included). You get a gold star! There are also a few others who are unsubbed (I think) who are somewhere in that prestige range.
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Quietly confident
Admiral
Joined: June 28, 2005
Posts: 215
From: Luna, Sol.
| Posted: 2006-03-13 01:02
I agree with creating more ranks. but i think it should look something like this:
Midshipman: Starting Rank
Ensign: 40 Prestige
2nd Lieutenant: 80 Prestige
1st Lieutenant: 160 Prestige
Lieutenant Commander: 320 Prestige
Commander: 640 Prestige
Captain: 1280 Prestige
Major: 2560 Prestige
Navy Captian: 5120 Prestige
2nd Rear Admiral: 10240 Prestige
1st Rear Admiral: 15120 Prestige
Vice Admiral: 20480 Prestige
Commodore: 30530 Prestige
Genral: 40960 Prestige
Admiral: 52400 Prestige
Fleet Admiral: 60410 Prestige
Grand Admiral: 81920 Prestige
Might look a bit silly as i used existing (navy) ranks to fit the in the extra slots, but it still wnated to keep GA at the top. =D
And for anyone who gets GA and wnats more:
Commander in Chief: 100000 Prestige
Commander of the Armarda: 150000
I don't know much about what ships would go to what rank, etc etc.
But i'm think that F should double the ship-base, and remove modding complelety and allow us to select each spelicsed ship.
Just my page worths...
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Light-of-Aurora
Grand Admiral
Joined: December 01, 2003
Posts: 602
From: NJ, USA
| Posted: 2006-03-13 05:42
Make a Master Chief rank 
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Sixkiller
Marshal
Courageous Elite Commandos
Joined: May 11, 2005
Posts: 1786
From: Netherlands
| Posted: 2006-03-15 14:12
I disagree with adding a new rank. There is nothing wrong with adding a new one, but the reason behind it is wrong.
The reason i am hearing is because of the bomb whores. You dont fix that by adding a new and higher rank. There are new players who didnt have the easy pres gain, there are people who refused to play with such a bugged system and there are people who just skipped the entire version because they were away (army etc.).
However, i would only under one thing agree with adding a new rank.
Since the prestige setback isnt gonna happen, the rankings should be resetted. Like someone said, some people could use a new challenge, some people really didnt learn anything besides bombing but ranked and some people havent really gotten high but just want to play a fair game.
I think the best solution would be adding the new rank, and resetting everyone's prestige.
Is it harsh?
Yes
Will it be good?
Yes
And as a sidenote, i think this is a damn good idea, the best i have seen, and i have been thinking an awefull lot about a good way of dealing with the bugged prestige.
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Quietly confident
Admiral
Joined: June 28, 2005
Posts: 215
From: Luna, Sol.
| Posted: 2006-03-15 14:58
Nooo... If you want peoples rank/pres reset, then re-set yours! some of us have worked long and hard to get were we are and don't want to loose it!
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Light-of-Aurora
Grand Admiral
Joined: December 01, 2003
Posts: 602
From: NJ, USA
| Posted: 2006-03-15 17:56
Rank reset probably won't happen. If I remember correctly, it's an attempt to avoid giving players the mindset,' wtf reset? aww, no point now, cause therl be more'
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