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Shigernafy
Admiral
Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 5726
From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
|  Posted: 2004-11-30 12:09
While it makes sense to have certain forums over here - Beta Testing Discussion, Contributed Code.. maybe Scripting... there's really no real reason to move the rest of these forums to the beta side.
All its done is make people start posting their suggestions in the General forum, which is kind of annoying.
And besides, the forums do not all, by definition, deal with Beta game code... I see no reason to leave them all over here.
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c0ld
Midshipman
Joined: June 24, 2003
Posts: 342
From: UK
| Posted: 2004-11-30 14:33
Over here, suggestions don't get shot down in flames with insults and general spam. Most suggestions lead to accusations of whining and calls of "if you don't like it leave!".
I prefer it over here personally, ideas can be posted and the devs can reveiw them at their leisure, without having to trawl thru all the spam.
If people are keen to have input, one more hyperlink to click on won't stop them.
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Shigernafy
Admiral
Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 5726
From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2004-11-30 16:01
I think, however, that you are one of about three people who know that these forums now reside here.
Plus, the link is part of the problem, in my mind.. as someone who cherishes order in the forums (ha!), the posting of Suggestions and links to suggestions in other forums bothers me; I'd prefer the Suggestions forum be available like it was before.
You do have a point about missing out on the casual flamer, who can't be bothered to come over here; however, I still think the Developers peruse threads when they're being flamed (I did, at least). It just provides more views on a subject, even if some of them are stupid.
It does make things a lot more clean. I guess this method keeps out those who don't want to put any effort into forum browsing...
I would ask for more opinions, but nobody else seems to know we're over here.. 
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Linna Yamazaka {Vice Admiral}
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Raven Warriors
Joined: May 03, 2003
Posts: 415
From: killer
| Posted: 2004-11-30 16:14
I'm also one that knows of the move over here. I think You should place a post within the other Release forums Letting them know they NEED to come over here to post there sugestions.
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c0ld
Midshipman
Joined: June 24, 2003
Posts: 342
From: UK
| Posted: 2004-11-30 21:09
Hmm, well theres a few things that could be done, short of moving it back, to make it more accessible.
1) move the "network" object to the top of the list, maybe in between "latest news" and "latest topics". This seems a more intuitive place for it to go and it'll be easier to see.
2) Make the "Latest Topics" in the main forum display dev feedback too, just divert users here when they click.
3) Make the beta "latest topics" display in the main forum as "Lasest beta topics" underneath "Main forum topics". But this might take up to much room.
4) Or simply create 2 seperate forums. ie "Game feedback" in the main forum and "Feature requests" in the beta. I think they could serve very different but useful roles. The first being general "I don't like so and so feature because blah blah" and the second being more for "I've got a crazy idea for a new feature..." type thing.
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Meko
Grand Admiral
Joined: March 03, 2004
Posts: 1956
From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2004-12-01 07:28
i think more people know about this forum that are letting on.... *looks around*
i like the cleanlyness of this forum, but then again the lack of people aware could also just hinder it.
i think under "Latest topics" have a "Latest beta forum topics" with a little arrow. click the arrow and the menu expands.
also leave the current way to come over, because i discovered it when i was looking at "Top downloads" on the right.
and rather than making a new topic in the other forum ill tell ya here... i love the new website login thing. so much better than that popup. it makes the forum loading so much faster on this dinky modem.
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BackSlash
Marshal
Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2004-12-01 14:42
You could just put forums links on the other page.
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Shigernafy
Admiral
Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 5726
From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2004-12-03 13:05
I realize there are likely workarounds, but to me that's not really the point. I was dicussing the validity of having this forum over here at all.
In my mind, Suggestions belongs on the Release side of things: You're judging the game, analyzing needs, and suggesting changes.
On the beta side, you are talking about feature changes and/or bugs, and discussing possible changes to them, their worth, and so forth.
They are distinct to me. Its not that Beta shouldn't get a forum, or that we can't put a link for this forum somewhere, but I don't think it belongs here in the first place.
And, for that matter, having the Dev forum over here is kind of annoying as well - you'll notice its neglected lately, because its cumbersome and annoying to log in more than once just to view all the forums relating to your game of interest. In fact, I'm bouncing between three entirely different websites each day just for darkspace.. seems kind of ridiculous, to me.
But perhaps I'm in the minority...
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c0ld
Midshipman
Joined: June 24, 2003
Posts: 342
From: UK
| Posted: 2004-12-03 13:38
Not that my opinion counts for anything, but I've actually come round to your way of seeing it Shig. "Developer feedback" should be as it implies, feedback on the release version and on the release side of the website.
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Fatal Command (CO)
Chief Marshal
Fatal Squadron
Joined: November 27, 2002
Posts: 1159
From: Back in Texas and noticing some ppl are like canoes.....they need to be paddled.
| Posted: 2004-12-23 19:31
um.......I just keep posting in the wrong forums.....lol
so ok......anyone wanna move it?
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Cadet
Joined: April 08, 2004
Posts: 13
| Posted: 2004-12-26 00:18
I completely agree with you Shig. I was beginning to post in the little used forums (Czech, mainly), as I didn't know where this forum was, or how to get to it. I don't think many left do, actualy, know how to get over here. The point of posting in a public forum is to spark discussion of the topic at hand, and when you get the same three people posting, the ideas get rather stale, or disappear altogether.
Move it back, Bito
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