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DOM700 [-IMO-]
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Joined: July 26, 2001
Posts: 3175
From: Eckental, Germany, Sol-System
|  Posted: 2003-09-24 07:57
With the update Ships will need shipyards with materials to be created, why not crew as well? Currently with the right ammount of resources you could build as many stations as you want, where does the crew come from?
I suggest a new building called Fleet Academy which will train a certain number of people for fleet work, but only as many as are jobless on that planet
This would mean for example on a normal barren world 40000 people for fleet work (4 pop), on a terran world 290000 (29 pop)
Of course those people should also be ferried by AI trannys
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Imaginary Shifty
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Joined: June 02, 2003
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From: Estonia
| Posted: 2003-09-24 08:27
AI trannys will be removed so forget it.
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Barthezzz
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Joined: May 31, 2001
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From: The Netherlands
| Posted: 2003-09-24 08:41
Ai Trannies are a long way from being removed.
Anyway i fully support it. It sounds great 
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DOM700 [-IMO-]
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From: Eckental, Germany, Sol-System
| Posted: 2003-09-24 09:21
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On 2003-09-24 08:27, Shifty wrote:
AI trannys will be removed so forget it.
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Maybe those crewmembers could fly to the shipyard planet with some kind of civilian ship then, used to transport all sorts of people, crews, refugees and so on
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Pope
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Joined: June 11, 2002
Posts: 2449
From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2003-09-24 10:27
1.) barthezz, play the beta. really. you'll be surprised at what you dont know about it.
2.) crew could be transferred with the trade interface just like goods.
i like the idea.
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Barthezzz
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From: The Netherlands
| Posted: 2003-09-24 11:08
Faustus removed the trannies in the Beta...? 0.o
Why does he always remove stuff before he has something functional to replace it with? 
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DOM700 [-IMO-]
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Joined: July 26, 2001
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From: Eckental, Germany, Sol-System
| Posted: 2003-09-24 11:19
hmmm, forgot that the trannys got removed, well then the civil ships I suggested
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Pope
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From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2003-09-24 14:05
why do people make wild assumptions about things they apparently know nothing about?
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Bad_Skeelz
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Joined: October 18, 2002
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From: The Lobby
| Posted: 2003-09-24 15:23
Faustus already has a functional way of resource trading that will replace the archaic AI tranny system. You see, there is now a building called "The Wizards Tower". At this building you create wizards, who then magically transport resources to different planets. With these magic-weilding old men AI transports are obsolete and thus were removed.
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Shigernafy
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Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 5726
From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2003-09-24 15:48
Don't forget the new need to collect Gaifen droppings, which are then processed to use as an offering to the Gods, to get mana for the AI wizards...
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Joined: February 26, 2003
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From: Upstate New York
| Posted: 2003-09-24 16:10
lmao
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MrSparkle
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Joined: August 13, 2001
Posts: 1912
From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2003-09-24 16:23
Hehe Barthezz have you been in beta at all? You really should, at least to get a head start on the new gameplay.
Anyway, AI transports are gone and the TRADE button is simpler. All you can do now is EXPORT, and it's a simple matter of clicking the planet you want to export, clicking the resource, then the target planet to receive the resource.
After that the trading happens automatically. And quite quickly I might add. Whereas AI transports take a while to get resources moving around, in the beta not only are resources mined a lot faster by the planet, but the automatic exporting happens just as fast.
But don't let that make you think that planets can support a lot of large ships spawning at their shipyards all the time:) cuz they can't.
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Gideon
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Joined: September 14, 2001
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From: Oregon, USA
| Posted: 2003-09-24 16:30
Transports were removed because of a flaw with the AI route plotting and zone transfers.
We felt that it was more economical to simply remove them for now rather than spend additional time to fix this and further delay the next version.
We anticipate returning AI transports to the game at a later date, as the ability to interdict them for piracy or to blockade a planet is an important strategy.
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Tellaris
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Joined: April 30, 2002
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From: Land of Chocolate
| Posted: 2003-09-24 16:43
Its particularly fun to dicter AI trannies coming from a planet with a resource your faction does not have. Me and some one else managed to get a hold of some Hypermatter off a transport once... Though it wasn't AI...
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Spiritlift
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Joined: January 12, 2003
Posts: 704
From: Australia, Hell
| Posted: 2003-09-24 16:44
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On 2003-09-24 07:57, DOM700 [-IMO-] wrote:
where does the crew come from?
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Would you like a course on the birds & Bees or a Nice Book Entitled "Where Did I Come From ?" 
hmm could always add another structure to planets like family planning clinics ...then theres hospitals , Courts , Parliaments , Embassies , Schools , military training academys , unis , crew inductment facilities, councils , theme parks & Mcdonalds... oh & what about landmarks visible from orbit ???
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