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Axianda The Royal
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Terra Squadron
Joined: November 20, 2001
Posts: 4273
From: Axianda
|  Posted: 2003-06-17 12:11
1 scanners detection range is WAY to low.
You cant dodge a mine field at 50Gu distance.
2 ppl dont use them * much * because they will loose the ECCM.
3 It only works for you.
my idea for this is
1 Increase detection range to 100Gu it gives time to warn the fleet
2 Make the scanner effect work for ALL ships in the fleet.
3 Give it ECCM abilety's but only for 500 Gu.
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Pussy----kat
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Joined: March 04, 2003
Posts: 117
From: Shadow Realm
| Posted: 2003-06-17 12:18
are we talking about beta? =^-^=
i know for a fact Scanners can see from about 2500gu away AND have an ECCM ability
only thing i agree with is how they should work for all ships... of the same faction atleast.
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Barthezzz
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Joined: May 31, 2001
Posts: 5630
From: The Netherlands
| Posted: 2003-06-17 12:26
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On 2003-06-17 12:18, Luna Lionheart wrote:
are we talking about beta? =^-^=
i know for a fact Scanners can see from about 2500gu away AND have an ECCM ability.
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They dont have an ECCM ability.
They help you see further AND cloaked enemies but ECCM allows your entire fleet to see Cloaked people.
And sure scanners can see that far but they only see mines at 50 Gu away.
Most of the Time this only shows you that you are gonna hit them. (When using cruisers and above)
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Pussy----kat
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Posts: 117
From: Shadow Realm
| Posted: 2003-06-17 12:32
only see mines from 50gu away.... hmm... thats funny... i sit at my scanning range from a planet and i can see mines right next to the planet
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Tbone
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Joined: July 21, 2001
Posts: 1756
From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2003-06-17 12:50
Increasing the range on scanners would help a great deal. Right now only 2 or more is useful.
Scanners don't have an ECCM effect, they only raise the signature of the ship using it. Scanners allow you to see the surface of a planet from much further away (1 scanner allows you to see it form 1800gu away). And not your own mines Luna... enemy mines. You don't see those until you hit them (which should be changed as well).
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Pope
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Joined: June 11, 2002
Posts: 2449
From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2003-06-17 14:42
to clarify this a bit. leaving out planets.
scanner: range 5000. the scanner helps detect LOW signature objects at further range then you normally could.
a cloaked ship running a reactor has a signature of 0.3 for example. if you have a scanner, you will probably see him at around 70 gu distance.
a ship with a signature of 2 will be detected at around 5000, instead of just at about 3000 gu.
also, any objects that are detected are obviously visible to every friendly ship as well. this accounts for mines, too. usually, since people tend to run only one scanner, this is relatively useless though. my BD's and CD's always have 2 scanners.
mines have a very low signature too, so you have to get very close to detect them
this works for psi missiles, IT missiles etc as well. a ship with one or 2 scanners can somewhat effectively PD psi missiles.
the scanner does not detect anything with a signature of 0 or less, nor does it increase anyones signature but the users (by 7) himself.
the scanner generally seems a bit underpowered. there have been a few suggestions made in the past about the scanner. none of them have been considered so far, to my knowledge. if you want, i can dig out some links.
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Midnight *FA*
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Terra Squadron
Joined: April 29, 2002
Posts: 689
From: ICS. Idot (ICC Station) somewhere in the middle of nowhere
| Posted: 2003-06-17 14:52
Ive only ever seen mines from 100 away with a scanner.. =/ .. and i remember the say they were about to detect vessles as the long range unit but increased by a factor of 5 instead of 3.. to many kluth comlpained cause they couldnt match its detection ability so it got removed from that ability...
frankly im so tired of hearing about the imbalance now its pathetic..im starting to look at it this way.. the upcoming patch is an update to CL weapons so kluth can figure out how they work.. and can no longer use them based on bioenergy... just for an example were increasing our tech level to combat them.. AKA were expanding to better combat abilities.. its annoying as heck yea. but the game is supposed to constantly change.. they may have the upper hand now.. but then again at one point they may gain it back after we get it..
for another thought.. maybe more Graphic options should be added. like the ability to further scale down the detail of fighters.. If youve read the dev log recently the fighters have had thier bumpmapping removed and have been scaled down in pixels even farther..That will help everyone.. but maybe a few will still have problems. just not as many as b4.. at anyrate.. just remember the game will only get better ! ^_^
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