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Joined: July 23, 2001
Posts: 159
From: California
|  Posted: 2002-05-10 00:47
* EVENT: 'NA Region Staff Meeting' event is starting now...
03:05:14 [PS]-mac-: "Ok ... shutup now :)"
03:00:46 Taelron: "Not done yet drafting a point by point rebutal"
* [TWP]PizzaTheHut mumbles
03:01:15 [PS]Selvarian: "Just so everyone knows, mac is chairing tonight's installment"
03:05:57 [PS]-mac-: "Not directed at you Tael :) Anyone have any topics, whisper 'em to me"
03:03:51 Taelron: "mostly afk, cleaning klez off a clients comp"
03:08:47 [PS]-mac-: "Ok, first up ... 'Is this grounds for a stats asjustment' in the PMF ... any comments?"
03:04:52 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "My comments are in the thread."
03:10:47 [PS]-mac-: "Could I have non-mods/admins leave for awhile, as this is a touchy subject ..."
* [TWP]PizzaTheHut sent "just call back if and when we can :)"
03:07:44 [Evil]Evil Bob: "Mac, we should create a new room with "closed" in the title, so it's clear what the
meeting status is"
03:08:25 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "might prevent people from popping in on us..."
03:08:31 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, hopefully, it will be for just this topic.. let's just get on with discussing it"
03:08:44 [Evil]Evil Bob: "rgr..."
03:08:46 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "k..."
03:13:18 [PS]-mac-: "Yup, just for this topic ... then we'll open up again"
03:09:15 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Ok, who hasn't read the thread?"
03:09:15 [PS]Selvarian: "I'll watch the door..."
03:09:21 [Evil]Evil Bob: "an admin should corner the offender and have a chat with them with removal of points in
mind."
* [PS]Selvarian sharpens his claws
03:09:51 [PB]Smokey: "which thread?"
03:10:01 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, I think they should be taken into a private room, and have a panel of 2 mods and 1
admin present."
03:10:11 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Is this grounds for a stat adjustment?"
03:10:11 [PS]Selvarian: ""is this grounds for a stat adjustment?""
03:10:18 [PB]Smokey: "about the court thingie?"
03:10:18 [Evil]Evil Bob: "grounds for stat adjustment"
03:14:49 [PS]-mac-: "http://www.darkspace.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=7561&forum=40&11"
03:10:45 [PB]Smokey: "k.. i read it sort of"
03:15:30 [PS]-mac-: "Is a discussion with the offender really necessary, as he has outright admitted farming in the
first place?"
03:11:22 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I think a 1 on 1 would be better, otherwise it would appear that they're getting ganged up
on, you don't want to put them immediately on the defensive"
03:11:23 [PB]Smokey: "im reading it again.. so anyway continue.."
03:11:34 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "hmm"
03:11:49 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Perhaps..."
03:12:08 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I think the discussion will be pretty much "what were you thinking when you said this?"
and here's what we're going to do about it."
03:16:57 [PS]-mac-: "Yup, pretty much"
03:12:31 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "But, from what that person said in the chatroom....There could be many meanings behind
it..."
03:12:59 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "I got gold by farming gaifen, back when exploiting was easier" "
03:13:13 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Could mean they were being sarcastic, considering the smile at the end..."
03:13:38 [PS]Selvarian: "I think it would be VERY hard to construe that sentence as much else other than what it
says prima facie."
03:14:06 [PS]Selvarian: "Possibly, Reason.. depends on the context."
03:14:17 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "yeah..."
03:14:52 [Evil]Evil Bob: "then we need to have someone talk to him about it and establish motive, then deal with it
as is necessary"
03:14:55 [PS]Selvarian: "I think that Bob has the right idea. A 1-on-1 with an admin, or even a mod.."
03:14:56 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "But, What if they did this while it was ``legit``"
03:15:01 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "How are we supposed to know?"
* Found no matches for 'bewilderbeast'...
* Found 1 matches for 'bewilderbeest'... [-GTN-]Bewilderbeest @28097 : Offline
03:15:21 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "IE, while it wasn't considered an exploit?"
03:15:41 [Evil]Evil Bob: "naw, most players blow off mods since we don't have any real power, best coming from an
admin"
03:16:33 [Evil]Evil Bob: "well, if we take his sentence at face value, he said it was "when exploiting was easier",
clearly he knew he was exploiting"
03:16:48 [PS]Selvarian: "Thing is, if the player is serious and not making a joke, then the bent of the sentence is
clear. "when exploiting was easier". IE, exploiting is hard/easy, not right/wrong"
03:16:59 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Yes, Well, take the PCM thing..."
03:17:27 [PS]Selvarian: "rather than "when it wasn't an exploit" or "before it was an official exploit""
03:17:34 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "I knew it was exploiting, however, the rest of the people doing it didnt...."
03:18:39 [Evil]Evil Bob: "then there is a need to establish motivation, basically we can't take any action until we
have a clear understanding to what happened."
03:18:54 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, well, that is pretty damning. The player needs to be taken aside and given a thorough
talking-to, adjusting attitude as necessary."
03:23:28 [PS]-mac-: "exactly ... without a further explanation, we're led to believe he knew it was an exploit, was
wrong, and was rewarded for doing something wrong ... we need to have a chat with him"
03:19:34 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, the part that doesn't help now is that Cuisinart said this...."
03:19:41 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "23:00:30 Cuisinart: "that is grounds for a stats adjustment Bewilderbeest" "
03:20:15 Taelron: "problem is a statement like that could have been sarcasim and since its so much later with no
witnesses we cant prove either way"
03:20:19 [Evil]Evil Bob: "but we still don't know if he was being sarcastic or not, neither did Cuis"
03:20:21 Taelron: "thus its hard to enforce or act upon"
03:20:50 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, that is a mod's judgement on the spur of the moment in a chat. I'm not going to hold
that as the gospel, but it should be under strong consideration."
03:21:40 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, true, considering the Title of the post..."
03:21:41 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "I have to agree with Bob, it's a dead topic until someone determines what this
clown was saying"
03:26:20 [PS]-mac-: "Let's have a chat with him, and go from there"
03:22:03 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "I know he changed his name....Dwarden knows who he is..."
03:22:13 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "I am trying to remember his old name...."
03:22:24 [PS]Selvarian: "1) it needs to be established that the player has a "broken" sportsmanship philosophy, then
2) sanctions need to be considered based on the situation and degree of deviance from the accepted code of conduct."
03:22:25 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Bewilderbeest that is..."
03:27:19 [PS]-mac-: "[-GTN-]Bewilderbeest @28097 : Offline"
03:27:23 [PS]-mac-: "same one?"
03:23:07 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "yep"
03:23:19 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "grr, wish I would have saved the chatlog"
03:23:21 [PS]Selvarian: "that number looks familiar."
03:23:46 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Hmm, let me check the forums...just a sec..."
03:24:08 [PS]Selvarian: "Demorian claims to know his clanmates pretty well; he should know who he is/was."
03:24:45 [PS]Selvarian: "Demorian is probably also preparing to deal with him as his clan leader.."
03:30:03 [PS]-mac-: "Signed a post with 'Polo'"
03:25:54 [Evil]Evil Bob: "polomint?"
03:25:56 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "that is it"
03:26:00 [PS]Selvarian: "Polomint?"
03:26:01 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Polomint!"
03:30:29 [PS]-mac-: "Think so"
03:26:10 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "yeah"
03:26:22 [Evil]Evil Bob: "that's why it looks familiar"
03:26:33 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Yep, now I remember..."
* Found 1 matches for 'polomint'... Polomint @28391 : Offline
03:28:16 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I remember chasing him out of Luyten several times"
03:28:30 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Polomint @28391 : Offline"
03:29:13 [Evil]Evil Bob: "hmmm...possibly not the same person? "
03:33:45 [PS]-mac-: "Yeah, both are the same ... he signed another post 'Bewilder/Polo' (posted as Polomint) .."
03:33:56 [PS]-mac-: "http://www.darkspace.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=7486&forum=46"
03:29:27 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "http://www.darkspace.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=7486&forum=46"
03:34:04 [PS]-mac-: "heheh :P"
03:29:43 [-[A`]-]|2eason: ":)"
03:30:18 [Evil]Evil Bob: "admin action item then"
03:34:51 [PS]-mac-: "Ok, closing topic ... we'll have a talk with him"
03:34:54 [PS]-mac-: "yup"
03:30:28 [PS]Selvarian: "anywho.. point is, he needs a nice little tete-a-tete with one of us, then potentially,
some punitive action, depending on the outcome of the situation."
03:30:33 Taelron: "we really need that player history db so when they change their names we dont have to play
private eye like this"
03:30:55 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, he didn't change his name"
03:30:59 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "he has two accounts"
03:31:05 [Evil]Evil Bob: "well, he's got two different account numbers he's playing on"
03:32:04 [Evil]Evil Bob: "selv or mac, check the account registry for both accounts and verify that they belong to
the same person"
03:32:55 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "do a who on both of them"
03:33:04 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "They have the same exact amt of prestige..."
03:38:08 [PS]-mac-: "http://www.darkspace.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=7484&forum=46"
03:38:17 [PS]-mac-: "Ties the two together"
03:34:58 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "yep"
03:35:02 [Evil]Evil Bob: "oh well, lets move on"
03:39:58 [PS]-mac-: "Next topic: players disconnecting to avoid prestige loss"
03:35:47 Taelron: "burn them at the stake"
03:36:02 Taelron: "Actually F. sent out an email confirming its an exploit now"
03:36:10 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "But how do we know if it was their action, or if they got discoed tael?"
* [{BSS}]Torquemada{TsN} has entered the room...
03:36:48 Taelron: "Just like with the monsters, a few bad apples ruined it for the rest of us.... we really cant
enforce it, but faustus is adding the time out code"
03:36:56 [PS]Selvarian: "Are we done with the private topics?"
03:41:39 [PS]-mac-: "I think so"
03:37:10 Taelron: "If its a legite disco, sorry, but to many people exploited it..."
03:37:49 [Evil]Evil Bob: "we need an official statement from PS until Faustus addresses it with code"
* [PS]Selvarian broadcasts "Staff meeting has been reopened to the public.."
03:38:18 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Hmm, not sure how to take what he said..."
03:42:59 [PS]-mac-: "Some are pretty obvious, that are not mere disconnects because of net conditions ... I think
those need to be dealt with as an exploit"
03:38:33 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Sounded like he was upset..."
03:39:18 Taelron: "didnt you get the email bob?"
03:39:22 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, I really loved it when my Computer crashed when I was entering battle, and everyone
jumped on me because I got disconnected..."
03:39:25 [Evil]Evil Bob: "there were a few reports this morning on people disconnecting in newbie"
03:39:28 [PS]Selvarian: "No, I don't think he was upset."
03:39:58 [PS]Selvarian: "I talked to him about the problem some last Friday."
03:44:39 [PS]-mac-: "Well, if it happened 3 times or more ... wouldn't that be just a little suspicious?"
03:40:08 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "That is one of the reasons I haven't been on, because my good vid card died..."
03:40:19 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "ok selv, just sounded like it in the statement..."
03:41:04 [Evil]Evil Bob: "disco..."
03:46:46 [PS]-mac-: "It would be a hard thing to moderate ... lots of gray areas"
03:42:41 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "yes...it would be mac"
03:43:27 Taelron: "well we just have to sit tight till the code is in"
03:43:47 [Evil]Evil Bob: "any eta from faustus on the topic?"
03:44:13 Taelron: "I downloaded the email on my laptop, cant pull it up right now..."
03:48:52 [PS]-mac-: "Now, if you see someone jumping into battle with a dread, getting down to 25% (or whatever),
disconnecting ... then doing it again, and again ... time to take that person aside and ask what the problem is"
03:44:29 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "the post is in the PMF"
03:44:34 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Exact same as the email"
03:48:31 [PS]Selvarian: "Nothing really should change.. if you all see someone doing it repeatedly and predictably,
talk to them... remember that it is still possible that they are having lag/sync problems (like Bob), so don't just
automatically launch into warnings and kicks."
03:49:19 [PS]Selvarian: "However, if the person is being evasive for no good reason, or becomes belligerent, don't
hesitate to take action"
03:54:46 [PS]-mac-: "On the suggestion Faustus made, as far as new policies go ... Selv, want to adopt that from
here on?"
03:50:46 [PS]Selvarian: "If someone is having a legitimate problem playing the game, our first job is to offer
assistance. If it is obviously people being poor sports, then deal with it appropriately."
03:50:58 [PS]Selvarian: "Which is that, using the email facility/"
03:50:59 [PS]Selvarian: "?"
03:55:32 [PS]-mac-: "yup"
03:51:50 [PS]Selvarian: "We can do that as well."
03:56:33 [PS]-mac-: "ok"
03:57:14 [PS]-mac-: "Next topic ... recent demotions"
03:52:53 [PS]Selvarian: "I'm not real keen on email spamming, so I think it should be reserved only for important
policy changes. It should be used in addition to posting in the PMF and Public Staff forums."
03:57:45 [PS]-mac-: "ok, that sounds good"
03:53:18 Taelron: "yeah there has been 2 right?"
03:53:26 [PS]Selvarian: "As for Faustus, he doesn't read his mail any more than he reads the various forums."
03:58:15 [PS]-mac-: "heheh true"
03:53:44 [PS]Selvarian: "So, it probably won't make much difference in his case."
03:53:52 [-[A`]-]|2eason: ":)"
03:58:32 [PS]-mac-: "Actually, 3 Tael ... Dwarden, Barthezz, DoomDragon"
03:54:02 Taelron: "he's been reading the forums, we have proof lately lol"
03:54:26 Taelron: "i got demodded again?"
03:54:27 Taelron: "lol"
03:54:39 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "lol"
03:54:41 [PS]Selvarian: "That doesn't mean he doesn't read his email, he doesn't read any it any more regularly than
he does the forums."
03:54:42 Taelron: "thats 4 mac..."
03:59:13 [PS]-mac-: "not you :P"
* [{BSS}]Torquemada{TsN} has entered the room...
03:55:51 [{BSS}]Torquemada{TsN}: "sorry to break in guys to your meeting TORQ IS ON AIR"
03:55:59 [PS]Selvarian: "Barthezzz was on probation and got yanked because his mouth got him in trouble in the
forums."
03:56:07 [PS]Selvarian: "oh goody."
04:00:59 [PS]-mac-: "The 3 mentioned were officially demodded this past Sunday"
03:56:37 [PS]Selvarian: "DoomD was demoted for being an unrepentent exploiter"
04:01:19 [PS]-mac-: "sorry, go ahead Selv ..."
03:57:31 [PS]Selvarian: " and Dwarden was demoted for an accumulation of various minor-medium offenses over the past
few months."
03:57:31 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "BTW, where did the Admin Meeting chatlog go? why no post?"
03:57:37 [PS]Selvarian: "np, mac.."
03:58:09 [PS]Selvarian: "Because it was too big to finish cleaning in one sitting Sunday and I haven't had 2 minutes
to rub together since."
03:58:24 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "ok..."
03:58:32 [PS]Selvarian: "I've got it and will post it soonly."
03:58:49 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "got ya selv..."
03:58:55 Ralph Norton: "nah - in game name"
03:59:03 Ralph Norton: "mix of the honeymooners"
03:59:14 Ralph Norton: "Shows my age"
03:59:44 [PS]Selvarian: "any questions about the demotions?"
04:00:11 [Evil]Evil Bob: "has Dwarden appealed yet?"
04:00:14 [DoH]DarkWanderer: "I haven't seen a green shirt on peanutbutter"
04:00:22 [TWP]PizzaTheHut: "ummm... Dward..."
04:00:49 [PS]Selvarian: "Not to my knowledge, but Samweis told me that he had spent some time talking with him in
the last 24 hours. No details yet."
04:00:57 [Evil]Evil Bob: "PB was voluntarily demoted several months ago, he requested it himself"
04:00:59 [PS]Selvarian: "peanutbutter resigned"
04:01:10 [DoH]DarkWanderer: "ok"
04:01:37 [DoH]DarkWanderer: "thought the mod bug might be back"
04:01:55 [PS]Selvarian: "nope. it is fixed, for good I hope"
04:06:53 [PS]-mac-: "Any more topics ... I don't see any whispers =)"
04:03:34 Taelron: "when we doing the mod vote?"
04:08:11 [PS]-mac-: "from DarkWanderer: any progress or status on a lobby for the new people?"
04:04:44 [PS]Selvarian: "Not yet. Me and Chromix are looking at the GCQL code as we have time this week. We'll be
meeting to set our joint to-do list this weekend, and whatever Faustus approves, we will start work on."
04:05:12 [DoH]DarkWanderer: "thanks"
04:05:30 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "oh boy..."
04:06:11 Taelron: "if you get the code, then add some special colorss"
04:06:14 [PS]Selvarian: "Tael -> Not sure yet.. We need to talk with Sam about scheduling for it. Other than that,
we are waiting for an off-line mechanism to coordinate the vote."
04:06:22 Taelron: "like for reviewers or special access..."
04:06:30 Taelron: "ah ok"
04:06:51 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, we are going to redo all of the rights in the system"
* [-GTN-]Demorian has entered the room...
04:11:54 [PS]-mac-: "Mod and admin vote: do we want to do either/or, wait for a more active meeting, do it via
website, or ... now?"
04:07:40 [PS]Selvarian: "We're looking at several items right now, including a major upgrade of GCQL, making it more
like Tribes 2's integrated graphical interface"
* [-GTN-]Demorian swears profusely, without actually swearing, for the sake of not violating the RoC. He clears his
throat, smiles innocently at the admins, and takes a seat in the corner, cattle prod handy. Self defense, ya know.
04:07:57 [Evil]Evil Bob: "actually, we have most of the active NA mods here tonight"
04:08:14 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "yeah..."
04:08:22 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "except Shigerdady, :("
04:08:52 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, well, Shiggy is going to be AWL for a lil while."
04:09:05 [Evil]Evil Bob: "if we do it via web site it forces selv to finish the site up :)"
04:09:06 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "yeah, good point"
* Found 4 matches for 'dwarden'... [ C `] Dwarden @86 : Offline Dwarden_Console @8537 : Offline Dwarden_Server @8511
: Offline Dwarden @31949 : Offline
04:09:13 [PS]Selvarian: "Yep."
04:13:45 [PS]-mac-: "heheh"
04:09:14 [-[A`]-]|2eason: ":) EB"
04:09:45 [PS]Selvarian: "It's ok, I am busting tail on inet projects right now anyway. Just gotta make the customers
happy first."
04:10:09 [PS]Selvarian: "As long as I don't have to leave this chair, I am getting a lot done."
04:10:11 [Evil]Evil Bob: "all work and no play makes selv a dull boy..."
04:10:29 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, well, work first, play later."
* [PS]-mac- Sent "not to my knowledge ... likely because of the updates and if a server acts up well reset it"
04:10:41 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "hmm, I guess I wouldn't mind having the vote tonight, up to you guys"
* Praetorian would just like to note his dedication/insanity as he left work 6 hours early to be here ;-)
04:11:00 [Evil]Evil Bob: "that's cool, lets be proactive and get it out of the way"
04:11:01 [PS]Selvarian: "I *WILL* play later. I got a year subscription for Kalvarian to start working on. I aim to
be #1 in about 4 months... :OP"
04:11:18 Taelron: "yeah i havent seen selv in debate mode in a while and the perfect thread is beckoning him"
04:11:27 [Evil]Evil Bob: "you could be #1 in 4 minutes :)"
04:11:35 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "lol"
04:16:05 [PS]-mac-: "OK, let's vote then. Easy one first ... new NA admin"
* Taelron makes a note to screen shot Kalvarians stats every day
04:11:51 [PS]Selvarian: "Bah.. not legitimately.. that's no fun.."
04:11:56 [Evil]Evil Bob: "heh"
04:12:11 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "lol"
04:12:46 Taelron: "Hmm Or atleast give someone else that has T.S. access until the code change the ability to
restart servers"
04:12:47 [PS]Selvarian: "I want to point at my stats and say "yeah, ships damaged points 446-475 are when I kicked
Bob's butt repeatedly at Af".."
04:17:25 [PS]-mac-: "Do we want to close this part of the meeting, or leave it open?"
04:12:59 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "first day, 10 prestige, 2nd day 30 prestige, 3rd day 999999 prestige all badges and 1
kill, :)"
04:13:13 [-GTN-]Demorian: "LOL"
04:13:23 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "If we are to vote, Close it"
04:18:28 [PS]-mac-: "Ok, overwhelming close response ... players, if you please ... and thank you :)"
04:14:05 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Do we have any other topics on the list yet?"
04:14:06 [DoH]DarkWanderer: "Destroyers of Hope is looking for new recruits favoring the K'luth faction. You may
contact me, or visit our clan page."
04:14:11 [PS]Selvarian: "Hmmm. voting.. not.. voting.. not..voting.. I feel like a yo-yo"
04:14:12 [TWP]PizzaTheHut: "bye bye :)"
04:14:18 [DoH]DarkWanderer: "oops"
* [-GTN-]Demorian , the late boy, is wondering what were going to vote on
* Found 1 matches for 'intrepid00'... [HWL]Intrepid00 @34316 : Chatting in 'DarkSpace English'
04:14:41 [-GTN-]Demorian: "oh, new NA admin"
04:19:12 [PS]-mac-: "Intrepid, are you still here?"
04:14:45 Taelron: "we are voting on whcih girl i am dating on friday "
04:14:49 [-GTN-]Demorian: "*bangs head on desk*"
04:14:56 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "lol"
04:14:56 [-GTN-]Demorian: "oh ya, thought so, tael"
04:19:39 [PS]-mac-: "squirrel-mode ... hmm hate that"
04:15:20 Taelron: "there we go weekly ds poll... ok who is up for admin"
04:15:23 Praetorian: "Woo, got it down to just staff..."
04:20:18 [PS]-mac-: "OK ... candidates are ..."
04:20:19 [PS]-mac-: "?"
04:16:09 [Evil]Evil Bob: "..behind curtain #3..."
* [-GTN-]Demorian looks expectantly at Selv, ready with his ballot.
04:16:42 [PS]Selvarian: "don't look at me.. mac's driving..."
04:16:56 [PS]Selvarian: "I'm kibbitzing."
04:21:37 [PS]-mac-: "lol. I believe Evil Bob threw his hat into the fray"
* [-GTN-]Demorian broadcasts "[{BSS}]Torquemada{TsN} is running DarkSpace Radio! Click here
and click Server 1 to listen in! Warning to children under 13: May have content that
will make your mommy very angry. Please use caution."
04:21:48 [PS]-mac-: "and |2eason"
04:17:37 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Intrepid's still here."
04:17:39 [-GTN-]Demorian: "either that or he just left"
04:17:43 Taelron: "Yeah its Evil bob"
04:17:49 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "hmm"
04:17:52 Taelron: "next"
04:17:57 [-GTN-]Demorian: "lol Tael"
04:17:57 Praetorian: "he wanted to Whisper to me?"
04:18:05 [PS]Selvarian: "I vote for Taelron.."
04:18:06 Taelron: "not Tael, being admin makes you join a clan"
04:18:10 [PS]Selvarian: ":OP"
04:18:25 [-[A`]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:18:41 [-GTN-]Demorian: "no seriously, nominees?"
04:18:49 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Bob, |2eason, anyone else?"
04:18:50 Taelron: "bob"
* [-GTN-]Demorian slaps Taelron.
04:19:06 [PS]Selvarian: "those who want it the least are probably the best candidates, unless they have a REAL
reason why they can't."
04:19:21 Taelron: "I'm waiting for the level 2 mod... thanks.. lol"
04:19:43 [-GTN-]Demorian: "I can give you a real reason"
04:19:45 [PS]Selvarian: "There was a discussion in the admin meeting before last about droping the TSC requirement."
* Error, failed to find 'intrepid00' in room...
04:19:56 Taelron: "i'll do it if asked to, but already catching enough flak as a mod lol"
04:20:01 [-GTN-]Demorian: "becoming an admin would take me away from GTN."
04:20:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "that a real reason for you?"
04:20:08 [PB]Smokey: "TSC?"
* [-GTN-]Demorian smiles innocently.
04:20:15 [Evil]Evil Bob: "TSC isnt' a concern for me at all anymore"
04:20:17 [PS]Selvarian: "No, it wouldn't"
04:20:30 Praetorian: "You could always Use two logins as Sam does Demo"
04:20:34 [-GTN-]Demorian: "what?"
04:20:36 Taelron: "@Selv I know, but until its gone, A mod with the passwords to the servers and ip's could do some
of the stats"
04:20:37 [PS]Selvarian: "Guys, you don't have to join/leave a clan to be an admin"
04:20:44 Taelron: "er i mean servers restarts"
04:20:46 [-GTN-]Demorian: "*blink* you're right."
04:20:50 [Evil]Evil Bob: "no, admin will be a seperate account, you'll still have your play account"
04:25:21 [PS]-mac-: "You just have to be a hard-butt and not play as an admin :)"
04:20:55 [-GTN-]Demorian: "hmm......"
04:20:57 [PB]Smokey: "TSC?"
04:21:03 Taelron: "And I can provide the TSC to anyone that needs it"
04:21:08 [PS]Selvarian: "Terminal Services Client"
04:25:38 [PS]-mac-: "TSC = terminal services client"
04:21:09 Taelron: "Terminal Service Client Smokey"
04:21:16 [PB]Smokey: "oh"
04:21:16 [-GTN-]Demorian: "ya know what? you're right. i'll throw my hat in."
04:21:35 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "lol"
04:21:50 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Torq is calling you names selv"
04:22:05 [PB]Smokey: "damn acronims or whatever"
04:26:44 [PS]-mac-: "Ok, so we have Evil Bob, |2eason, and Demorian ..."
04:22:15 [Evil]Evil Bob: "shall we bore each other with qualifications like last time or just vote?"
04:22:21 [PS]Selvarian: "The one question I have is whether this vote wants to be decided by the attendees, or do we
want to make sure all NA mods can vote?"
04:22:40 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Bombg, please leave the room. Private meeting for now."
04:22:42 Taelron: "@Bombg please leave this part is closed thanks"
04:23:03 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Selv, we did it with about this same group last time"
04:23:10 [-GTN-]Demorian: "for both you and mac"
04:23:11 [-GTN-]Demorian: "as i recall"
04:27:51 [PS]-mac-: "Attendees ... pretty much a representation of the active staff for NA"
04:23:27 [Evil]Evil Bob: "actually it was Mac and I :)"
04:23:34 [PS]Selvarian: "Tell him I'm gonna DDoS TSN's servers if he doesn't watch it."
04:23:39 [Evil]Evil Bob: "Selv was already an admin :)"
04:23:46 [-[A`]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:23:54 [Evil]Evil Bob: "we railroaded him into it :)"
* [PS]-mac- thinks Selv is getting cranky :)
04:24:04 [PS]Selvarian: "I know, I am just bringing it up as a concern."
04:24:16 [-GTN-]Demorian: "we understand Selv"
04:24:27 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "sent selv"
04:24:29 [-GTN-]Demorian: "I was just trying to lower the concern ;)"
04:24:31 [PS]Selvarian: "cranky? me? nahh.."
04:24:40 Taelron: "ok hmm all of us pretty much are up for admin... but who should we nominate"
04:25:05 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Evil Bob"
04:25:11 Taelron: "I cant give any set hours, everyone knows i am on a lot, and am easy to reach... my cell receives
pages... "
* [PS]Selvarian throws some peanuts at tragicx
04:25:14 [PB]Smokey: "hey tragic we're closed for a bit"
04:25:30 [PB]tragicx: "oh"
04:25:31 Taelron: "but i cant say i will be here 10 to 10... my schedule it to varied"
04:25:32 [PB]tragicx: "sorry"
04:25:39 [PB]Smokey: "np"
04:26:18 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I've got fixed hours, I can be on from work and home without any problems"
04:30:55 [PS]-mac-: "how about I throw some knives and guns into the arena, and the last one living is the new admin
..."
04:26:47 [-GTN-]Demorian: "I'm like Taelron, I have no real fixed hours, I'm just on all the time. And I think all
you guys can agree to that ;)"
04:31:19 [PS]-mac-: "sorry, in a rare mood tonight, bear with me :)"
04:26:59 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, I try to be on as much as I can, and usually sometimes end up coming on at other
times, when there is No Mods or Admins on...."
04:27:02 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, my schedule is nothing to write home to mama about, so... the issue is the amount of
time you can spend online regularly, not a set schedule; but that helps, too, obviously"
04:27:45 Taelron: "i am around about 4 to 5 hours a day... even when working on other issues... and my cell phone
can receive text emails so in a pinch i can be reached no matter what"
04:27:54 Taelron: "my cell is ALWAYS with me"
04:27:57 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "but I am usually on or availible during the afternoon..."
04:28:00 [-GTN-]Demorian: "I could cover the 2-3 hour "shift" thats right before you pop in and head to your little
room Selv, which is usually evening for me. ie, i would hang out in the afternoon."
04:28:15 [-GTN-]Demorian: "but that is the most fixed schedule i can provide."
04:29:29 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "But, I should be able to get on ANYTIME of day in about 2 weeks...after I am done with
college for this semester"
04:29:42 [PS]Selvarian: "SO, we have Reason, Demorian, Bob, and Taelron"
04:29:57 Chromix: "...morning..."
04:30:07 [PB]Smokey: "morn"
04:30:09 [-GTN-]Demorian: "morning Chromix"
04:30:10 [PS]Selvarian: "Prae, Smokey, Doug?"
04:34:41 [PS]-mac-: "Ok ... any last comments before we begin on a vote?"
04:30:17 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "hey chromix..."
04:34:49 [PS]-mac-: "heya chromix"
04:30:42 [PB]Smokey: "i have plenty of free time and i am on alot... but i guess my schedule will probably be
changing soon so i dunno..."
04:30:50 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "not I, girl problems, can't devote enough free time as it is :("
04:30:55 [PS]Selvarian: "gotta love someone who gets up at 5:30 to get onto DS..."
04:30:55 [-GTN-]Demorian: "are we going to be like last time and share our "credentials"?"
04:31:12 Praetorian: "I'm game, but it's not my choice ;-)"
04:31:19 Chromix: "Selv: It´s actually 6:30 :)"
04:31:45 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, well.. EDT messes with my head"
04:31:57 [PS]Selvarian: "DST, that is"
04:36:48 [PS]-mac-: "Yes ... that might make it easier Dem. Let's go down the list. |2eason, you have the floor ...
what credentials do you wish to be considered?"
04:33:08 [-GTN-]Demorian: "joshbond, private meeting. *shoo* :)"
04:33:31 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Hmm, going first again, joy, :)"
04:33:33 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "later gents, I need to bail, GF issues :("
* [-GTN-]Demorian gives [Evil]Disgruntled Doug a few pats on the head.
04:33:41 [ C `]joshbond: "oh, i see, i know where im not wanted"
04:33:53 [-GTN-]Demorian: "hehe josh, sorry ;)"
04:34:04 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, I will try to keep it short..."
04:34:11 [-GTN-]Demorian: "we're doing some secretive stuff, you know, incognito."
04:34:16 [ C `]joshbond: "no, its ok....................i have better places to go"
04:34:20 [-GTN-]Demorian: "so that means you gotta go poof."
04:34:23 [ C `]joshbond: "I DONT NEED YOU"
04:34:29 [Evil]Evil Bob: "ok, everyone turn your decoder rings to 12..."
04:34:41 Taelron: "pulls on his boots"
04:34:41 [-GTN-]Demorian: "josh, i'm serious now."
04:34:44 [ C `]joshbond: "*cries*"
* [-GTN-]Demorian gives [ C `]joshbond a few pats on the head.
04:35:01 [ C `]joshbond: "oh"
04:35:06 [ C `]joshbond: "ok bye"
04:35:16 [PS]Selvarian: "you can come back later when we are done with this voting stuff"
04:35:19 [PB]Smokey: "welp im outtie.. going to go break some stuff... :O)"
04:35:19 Taelron: "thnks"
04:35:33 [PS]Selvarian: "later, Smokey"
04:35:44 [PB]Smokey: "hopefully hehehe"
04:40:17 [PS]-mac-: "cya Smokey ... good luck heheh"
04:35:53 [PS]Selvarian: "good luck"
04:36:21 [PS]Selvarian: ""and then there were six...""
04:36:23 [Evil]Evil Bob: "your turn reason..."
04:36:45 [PS]Selvarian: "well, five.. Chromix doesn't count.. :OP"
04:38:14 [Evil]Evil Bob: "brb... going to make myself a milkshake, looks like it's going to be a long night..."
04:38:43 [PS]Selvarian: "better grind some coffee beans up in it for good measure"
04:39:04 [Evil]Evil Bob: "naw, i want to be able to sleep later :)"
04:39:50 Chromix: "hm, go here to relax ;-)"
04:39:58 [PS]Selvarian: "Who said anything about sleep? When we're done here, it'll be time for work."
04:40:05 Chromix: "hehe"
04:40:21 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Ok, Well, I try to help out as much as I can around here. I have volunteered alot of my
time to this game, and this community. I come here to do my job as a moderator, and usually I spend most of my time
being a moderator. Since DS has gone pay to play, I have spent maybe a good 2 weeks playing, the rest doing my
duties. I try to do the best I can, and I haven't had to use any of my tools yet, ie, push, kick and ban."
04:40:56 Praetorian: "Yup Selv, I gotta go back to my bar and sling drinks LoL...my boss will shoot me if he sees me
in his office ;-)"
* [PB]tragicx Sent "hey mac, Ive got a quick question, can I join the meeting real quick?"
04:41:02 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "I dont want to become an Admin to get more tools, I would like to put my skills to work"
04:41:55 [PS]Selvarian: "Hmmm... I recall a quote I heard again recently about "skillz"... of course, I watched MiB
again this weekend, so go figure."
04:42:04 [-GTN-]Demorian: "LOL"
04:42:13 [-GTN-]Demorian: "we gotta work on yo people skillz, reason."
04:42:53 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "In the past week or so, I have been trying to weed out the Bugs forums, and come up with
a better categorizing system. Right now, my idea is to separate all the bugs into the time periods they were
reported, ie, after what update did they show up"
* [-[A`]-]|2eason slaps [-GTN-]Demorian in the head...
04:43:04 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "That good for you?"
04:43:05 [-[A`]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:43:14 [PS]Selvarian: ""Anything you say, slick, but let me tell ya something about your "skillz".... as of now,
they mean precisely................dick"
* [-GTN-]Demorian hears a faint whistling sound from the atmosphere, and looks up with bewilderment. Suddenly he and
[-[A`]-]|2eason see Lith Ragond`s Dreadnought clear the cloud layer and hear, ``ooo craaaAAAP!!`` just as the blur
goes by, taking [-[A`]-]|2eason with it. WHAM, feel the GTN lub.
04:43:18 [-GTN-]Demorian: "okay, continue."
04:43:29 [Evil]Evil Bob: "age reas?"
* [PS]-mac- Sent "were voting on mods/admins at the moment ... anything urgent?"
04:43:56 [Evil]Evil Bob: "dem needs to go re read the RoC about behavior in official meetings"
04:43:57 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "How old is Sunshine?"
04:44:08 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "because I am 19...."
04:44:13 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Evil Bob needs to lighten up and feel the lub. continue, Reason."
04:44:24 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, skills or no skills, I try to do my best."
04:44:26 [-GTN-]Demorian: "(just playin, sorry)"
* [PB]tragicx Sent "just had to ask if there was going to be a new release of Game CQ so I could just log into lobby
from other places without having to download the whole 35 megs.."
04:49:11 [PS]-mac-: "ok kids ... be nice."
04:44:59 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Anyway...."
* [-GTN-]Demorian begins applauding [-[A`]-]|2eason.
04:49:58 [PS]-mac-: "Thanks, |2eason ... nice speech"
04:45:30 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, I'm not setting a good example here, either... I'm losing my general inhibitions to
silliness because I am on my 30 hour mark. Just slap me and I'll shut the hell up."
* [PS]-mac- slaps [PS]Selvarian in the head...
04:50:15 [PS]-mac-: ":)"
* [-GTN-]Demorian slaps [PS]Selvarian.
04:50:21 [PS]-mac-: "Dem ... you're up next"
04:46:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "roger."
04:46:12 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Sry if it was long....I was put on the spot last time, and had to go first then too, :("
04:46:14 [-GTN-]Demorian: "*shuts off spiderman trailer music*"
04:46:24 [-GTN-]Demorian: "well i have a few things to say"
* [PS]-mac- Sent "Faustus is constantly upgrading it ... still having the same problem?"
04:46:37 [-GTN-]Demorian: "first thing i'll improvise, basically to say what Reason did about availability, what
i'll do with the position, etc"
* [-GTN-]Demorian pushes Fritz out the door gently. :)
04:46:57 Praetorian: "Fritz, sorry, closed meeting at the moment..."
04:47:20 [-GTN-]Demorian: "and the second is to reiterate one section of my text from the LAST admin election,
pertaining to the question "why do you want the position?""
04:47:33 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i didnt think it would be appropriate just to copy the entire text of what i wrote last
time. so here goes."
04:47:48 Taelron: "lol i got discoed"
04:47:55 Taelron: "i thought everyone else stopped typing"
* [PB]tragicx Sent "I thought it might have been the machine I was coming from (not at home) but Ive tried it other
places as well and it just stops and gives a client error. Ive never just used the Game CQ but wish I could."
04:48:40 [-GTN-]Demorian: "first off, availability. as I said a moment ago, I'm around. A lot. A definite plus to
that is that I tend to be a lobby-dweller. I spend my time not just playing DarkSpace, but sitting in there, getting
to know people, and hanging out with all the players (and moderating of course)."
04:48:55 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Like Taelron said, I could not give you a real clear-cut schedule."
04:49:13 [-GTN-]Demorian: "The best I can tell you is that I could easily cover what Selv usually doesn't, that is
the period 2-3 hours before he usually shows up."
04:49:24 [-GTN-]Demorian: "second, what i would do."
* [PS]-mac- Sent "have you send Faustus a note with the exact client error text?"
04:50:30 [-GTN-]Demorian: "well, i really don't know what to say here. I know what the admin position means. It
means dedication, a level of commitment even higher than modship, and also more responsibility. I am prepared for
that. I am prepared to make those sacrifices so that I can work as closely with the game as I can, as an analytic
player and as an admin."
* [PB]tragicx Sent "I dont think the client error would help. Says Client Error or something similar.. "
04:51:23 [-GTN-]Demorian: "and finally, here is the segment from the last election"
04:51:37 [-GTN-]Demorian: "why i personally would like the position"
04:51:51 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Put simply, I treasure this community. I have made some AMAZING friends here, and
captured the respect of people I didn't think I'd ever catch even the eye of. I have met Richard "Faustus" Lyle,
someone I look up to and respect very much for his single-handed work on DarkSpace. I love being here to play
alongside hundreds, maybe thousands, of other players, and helping out when they need it. I like being a leader, and
if being an admin for this region can help me further all of these thin"
* [PS]-mac- Sent "anything in common with all the PCs youve used?"
04:52:20 [-GTN-]Demorian: "next. :)"
04:56:59 [PS]-mac-: "Thanks Demorian ... :)"
04:52:38 [PS]Selvarian: "all of these thin""
04:52:39 Praetorian: "I think that's a cut-off Demo"
04:52:41 [Evil]Evil Bob: "got cut off at ... "all of these thin""
04:52:51 [-GTN-]Demorian: "thought so. one sec"
04:53:04 [-GTN-]Demorian: "...and if being an admin for this region can help me further all of these things, so I
can be an even more integral part of this awesome place, then I definitely want the position for that reason."
04:53:06 [-[A`]-]|2eason: ":) memories"
04:53:11 [-GTN-]Demorian: "next. again. :)"
04:53:20 [-GTN-]Demorian: "shaddap, Reason. I thought that was the short one. hehe"
04:57:49 [PS]-mac-: "hmm I got it all ..."
* [-GTN-]Demorian gives [-[A`]-]|2eason a noogie.
04:53:39 [-[A`]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:58:34 [PS]-mac-: "nm, no I didn't"
04:58:56 [PS]-mac-: "I must be tired :)"
04:59:24 [PS]-mac-: "Ok Taelron ... Evil Bob has requested last position, so you're up ..."
04:55:28 Taelron: "ah sorry was working on my spender reply ok.."
04:55:39 Taelron: "um since i was discoed i dont know the format so i will wing it."
04:55:55 [PS]Selvarian: "format: winging it"
04:56:02 [Evil]Evil Bob: "that's all the others have done, do you worst"
04:56:39 [-GTN-]Demorian: "watch Bob break out the ordered resume, government certified credentials, and dont forget
the purple heart."
04:56:50 [-GTN-]Demorian: "just watch."
04:56:56 Taelron: "Ok, if chosen for Admin free -5000 pres to all that voted for me, and a scout ship in every
fighter bay... but seriously, I love the game and spend a lot of time here at awkward hours... Seam to always make
it on when there are no admins to be found..."
04:57:04 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Please dont remind me Demorian..."
04:57:06 [Evil]Evil Bob: "nope, never wounded in battle, I was lucky :)"
04:57:06 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "sry"
05:01:57 [PS]-mac-: "ahem"
04:57:59 Taelron: "Most of the players in the lobby come to me when they are looking for something to be fixed, even
if i cant do it, i try my best to help them and work as a middle man for the admins before passing off to them so we
know the whole issue if warrented... Work heavily in the forums..."
04:58:48 Taelron: "Know a little bit about computers since I am an IT Consultant... Have access to all the software
currently needed, and my if i am not on, my cell phone can receive text pages so i can rush to a computer if
possible"
04:59:25 Taelron: "anywas, if asked to do the job or voted I would do it the same way I do mod, I will be visable to
the players as much as possible.."
04:59:39 Taelron: "And if you want government clearance.. I have TS-SCI lol"
04:59:40 Taelron: "next"
* [-GTN-]Demorian looks expectantly at EB.
05:00:43 Taelron: "ie done"
05:05:15 [PS]-mac-: "Thanks, Taelron ... interesting :)"
05:05:30 [PS]-mac-: "Ok Evil Bob ... your turn, do or die ..."
05:01:14 [-GTN-]Demorian: "no, its do and we die."
05:01:19 [-GTN-]Demorian: "you got it all wrong, mac"
05:05:49 [PS]-mac-: "shap :P"
05:01:32 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I wont rehash the same stuff from last time for the sake of redundancy, lets just get on
with the vote."
05:01:35 [-GTN-]Demorian: "shap to you too."
05:01:44 Taelron: "brb"
* [-GTN-]Demorian blinks.
* [-GTN-]Demorian looks at Bob with astonishment.
05:06:59 [PS]-mac-: "uhm OK."
* Gideon has entered the room...
* [-GTN-]Demorian picks his jaw up off the ground.
05:07:29 [PS]-mac-: "(still blinking too) ... votes please, bottom of list up ..."
05:03:17 [-GTN-]Demorian: "roger. Prae?"
05:03:34 [Evil]Evil Bob: "whisper all votes to mac"
05:03:42 [-GTN-]Demorian: "yep"
05:08:15 [PS]-mac-: "yes ... whisper pls :)"
05:04:18 [Evil]Evil Bob: "tael, whisper your vote to mac"
05:04:41 [PS]Selvarian: "I vote for that Chromix dude.. he works for peanuts.. or at least works to THROW peanuts."
05:04:55 Taelron: "sorry was dealing with a lobby issue"
05:05:00 Taelron: "we voting?"
05:05:07 [PS]Selvarian: "yep"
05:09:37 [PS]-mac-: "yup"
05:05:12 [Evil]Evil Bob: "yep, whisper your vote to mac"
05:05:24 Gideon: "What are you all voting on?"
05:05:32 Taelron: "k thanks..."
05:05:40 [-GTN-]Demorian: "new NA admin, Gideon. you missed the speeches."
05:05:44 [PS]Selvarian: "another NA admin"
05:05:46 [Evil]Evil Bob: "new NA region admin"
05:05:52 Gideon: "Sorry...Candidates?"
05:05:53 [-GTN-]Demorian: "candidates are Taelron, |2eason, Evil Bob, and myself."
05:06:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "whisper a vote of confidence to mac if you have one"
05:06:09 [PS]Selvarian: "Candidates are Reason, Demorian, Evil Bob, Taelron."
05:06:14 Gideon: "Aww, hell, tough choice..."
05:06:24 Chromix: "oh yeah... I forgot to add... vote for me as an admin and you´ll have one who never bothers you
due to being afk most of the time ;-)"
* Taelron reminds everyone he promises -5000 bonus pres and a scout ship in your hanger for every vote i get
05:06:34 [-GTN-]Demorian: "LOL"
* [PS]Selvarian throws Chromix some peanuts.
05:06:53 Taelron: "lol chromix, we got that now lol thats why we are voting"
* Taelron smiles at [PS]Selvarian...
05:07:21 [PS]Selvarian: "Hey, I put in my time, man!"
* Taelron is playing
05:07:59 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "gads!"
05:08:00 [PS]Selvarian: "You might want to emphasize the MINUS sign, Tael.."
05:08:20 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "sorry all had work"
05:08:30 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Judas, private meeting. gotta scoot for a sec"
* Taelron grins
* [-GTN-]Demorian gives [-GTN-]Judas a few pats on the head.
* [-GTN-]Judas growls.
* [-GTN-]Demorian gives [-GTN-]Judas a noogie.
* Gideon falls asleep at the keyboard....
05:09:13 Gideon: "Huh? What? What did I miss?!?!"
* [-GTN-]Judas notes that by tonight he will outrank Demorian..
05:09:59 [-GTN-]Judas: "k"
* [-GTN-]Demorian notes that by the end of tonight he will bitchslap Judas. shoo. hehe
05:10:20 [-GTN-]Demorian: "its the GTN lub."
05:11:03 [Evil]Evil Bob: "all votes in?"
05:15:45 [PS]-mac-: "ok, out of touch for a few mins ... tabbing votes"
05:11:19 Taelron: "no mods in english, i am in a stealth account there now... "
* [PS]Selvarian eyes everyone else eyeing him stuffing the ballot box...
05:11:51 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "while mac is counting, could i get a quick review of what went on?"
05:12:02 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "like just the topics?"
05:12:05 [PS]Selvarian: "Did you vote, Lith?"
05:12:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "aye me too, i missed everything before the vote"
05:12:09 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "yeah"
* Taelron points to the minus - sign on his campgain promise
05:12:23 [-GTN-]Demorian: "wb, joshbond"
05:12:40 [PS]Selvarian: "Warner Brothers?"
05:12:48 [Evil]Evil Bob: "topic 1... "does this deserver a stat reduction" thread in PMF..."
05:13:09 [Evil]Evil Bob: "topic 2... "intentional disconnection to avoid dying in combat""
05:13:12 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, but Tael, like all campaign promises, we know you won't deliver..."
05:13:22 [Evil]Evil Bob: "topic 3... new NA admin vote."
05:13:43 Taelron: "well next time NovaM is up for mod i vote for him... only one that answered my newbie questions"
05:13:44 [ C `]joshbond: "awww does that mena i got to leave again"
* Praetorian slaps Taelron in the head...
05:14:05 Praetorian: "You n00b"
05:14:22 Taelron: "was testing the room"
05:14:26 Praetorian: "I'm NovaM :-P"
05:14:28 [PS]Selvarian: "Hehe.. been testing, eh?"
05:14:41 Taelron: "yup"
05:14:57 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Brb....checking english......."
05:15:01 [PS]Selvarian: "You are? I thought you were just Some Pocket Lint"
05:15:11 [-GTN-]Demorian: "oh, what was the result of topic 1"
05:15:13 Taelron: "reason i am in there in stealth"
05:15:14 [-GTN-]Demorian: "since it pertains to me and Lith"
05:15:18 [-GTN-]Demorian: "we are in command of GTN and all"
05:15:22 [-GTN-]Demorian: "what was the decision?"
05:15:29 Praetorian: "All my previous Nicks are on my Forum tags :-P"
05:15:33 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "what, what was topic 1?"
05:15:36 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "meeting still on?"
05:15:43 [Evil]Evil Bob: "topic 1... "does this deserver a stat reduction" thread in PMF..."
05:15:44 [PS]Selvarian: "admin will talk to Polomint and decide what the best approach will be to take to deal with
the player"
05:15:49 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Lith Ragond, read PMF "does this deserve stat reduction""
05:16:04 [-GTN-]Demorian: "roger that. I request that I be present as well."
05:16:16 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "same"
05:16:17 [Evil]Evil Bob: "yep, still going on Doug, Mac is tabulating votes right now"
05:16:20 [-GTN-]Demorian: "I don't want him to feel uncomfortable."
05:16:35 [PS]Selvarian: "What did you do about the woman troubles?"
05:17:05 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "took her shopping, let her pick out what she wants to cook for dinner :)"
05:17:12 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, he said some things that, if he didn't mean them to be above-board, SHOULD make him
feel uncomfortable"
05:17:29 [PS]Selvarian: "Buy her some knee-pads?"
05:17:53 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "she's got those already, for scrubbing the floors with :)"
05:18:05 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "scrubbing floors... right"
05:18:09 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "she just uses my paintball knee pads"
05:18:11 [PS]Selvarian: "ah.. I see."
05:18:16 [-GTN-]Demorian: "lol Lith"
05:18:34 [PS]Selvarian: "So that is what they are calling it now "scrubbing the floor"."
05:18:45 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "?"
05:18:48 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "how's the 18th sound for PB Bob?"
05:23:20 [PS]-mac-: "Ok, ready. I'll make available the log with the votes for Selvarian to recount at a later time,
if required."
05:18:58 [PS]Selvarian: "kinda like "washing the frog"."
05:19:08 [Evil]Evil Bob: "should be good if I can get that day off from weapons sparring"
05:19:11 Taelron: "sure go for it"
* Praetorian rolls his eyes, and reminds everyone what a good bartender he is right now ;-)
05:19:16 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "i live in florida, RECOUNT!"
05:19:23 [-GTN-]Demorian: "LOL Lith"
05:19:31 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "back"
05:19:37 Taelron: "lol lith then the under dog wins... wait thats me! no recount!"
05:19:45 [Evil]Evil Bob: "good bar tender?? I'm not even close to being drunk yet..."
05:19:46 Taelron: "lol like the kick Reason?"
05:20:00 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "what kick?"
05:24:40 [PS]-mac-: "Before I announce the "winner" (or is that the loser - being an admin is a winner? :) ... I
would just like to say that the resultant vote is in no way an indication of your perceived or acknowledged support
and dedication to DarkSpace and its Community. OK?"
05:20:11 [PS]Selvarian: "youse guys kickin'?"
05:20:15 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "I was in English....checking on people"
05:20:21 Taelron: "*Moger has been kicked by Taelron..."
05:20:37 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "hmm"
05:20:41 Praetorian: "Reason, me and Tael are stealthed in English :-P"
05:20:41 [-GTN-]Demorian: "roger that mac"
05:20:41 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "didn't see it......"
05:21:01 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "oh..:)"
05:21:05 Taelron: "Well not anymore, switched off but mimiced a ban first"
05:21:17 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Oh no....."
05:21:35 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "oh my"
05:26:15 [PS]-mac-: "And the vote is ... Evil Bob is the latest NA region admin/community manager"
05:22:08 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "congratz Evil Bob"
05:22:11 Taelron: "woot woot"
* [-GTN-]Demorian screams, TOLD YA!!! To respective people, then hugs Evil Bob.
* [Evil]Disgruntled Doug points and laughs maliciously at Bob
05:22:18 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "gratz..."
05:22:20 [Evil]Disgruntled Doug: "sucker :)"
05:22:26 Taelron: "hehe see Selv, my campaign promise worked!"
05:26:55 [PS]-mac-: "congratulations, Bob ... or my deepest sympathies, once you realize what you've gotten yourself
into here :)"
05:22:34 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "thats gonna be weird, with a new admin"
05:22:47 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "Well, I am off to make myself usefull, I have a feeling I am going to be needed in the
English room......."
05:22:53 [-GTN-]Demorian: "hehe it was plenty weird seeing Selv as a whitie"
05:22:56 [PS]Selvarian: "In fact, you have to remember that being an admin means being more focused on staff issues
than player issues; several of you do your best work with the players, and I, for one, am damn glad to have each and
every one of you, regardless of what your job title says..."
05:22:58 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "later, ....."
05:22:59 [-GTN-]Demorian: "its like OH MY GOD I'M BLIND"
05:23:06 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I laughed at Selv last week with his 6 hour ordeal... payback is coming :("
05:27:39 [PS]-mac-: "Thanks for participating |2eason"
* [-GTN-]Demorian gives [PS]Selvarian a great big hug...
05:23:22 [-GTN-]Demorian: "later Reason"
* [-GTN-]Lith Ragond job title... BLANK
05:23:26 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "yeah........"
05:23:27 Taelron: "so bob, when do you want to get that drink lol"
05:23:32 [-[A`]-]|2eason: "later, :("
05:28:04 [PS]-mac-: "@Selv: my sentiments exactly"
05:23:56 [Evil]Evil Bob: "heading down stairs right now for that bottle..."
05:23:58 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i'm sorry guys, i'm going to go follow Reason for a moment. the .......... worries me."
05:23:58 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "woot, i love archiving :("
05:24:04 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i'll be back in a moment."
05:24:10 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "rofl"
05:29:02 [PS]-mac-: "(Officially closing meeting, since we're losing participants ...)"
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