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Transcript: Moderator Meeting 12/10/01 |
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|  Posted: 2001-12-10 14:24
07:20:52 [PS]Faustus: "howdy..."
07:20:58 Teager: "hiya chef *g*"
07:20:59 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "Hi Faustus"
07:21:05 [PS]Faustus: "whats the current topic?"
07:21:15 [PS]Faustus: "because I got a good one.."
07:21:20 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "euro payment"
07:21:21 [eXS]Hydronix: "hi faustus"
07:21:22 [DI]Vinco: "Payment for Europe is current"
07:21:22 Teager: "paying for non US ppl"
07:21:23 [MoA]Bumblebee: "does faustus join us ???"
07:21:26 [eXS]Geo: "so tell"
07:21:27 [BIS]Bionicman: "no topic i think"
07:21:33 [MoA]Bumblebee: "that is the topic"
07:21:35 [MoA]Bumblebee: "lol"
07:21:44 [MoA]MacSinclair: "The Master of the universe is here, keep silent  )"
07:21:53 [MoA]Lord Binary: ";) k"
* [MoA]TJ.Storm is here.. thats right, mac sinclair
07:22:07 Teager: "Thanks, MAc *g*"
07:22:14 [eXS]Geo: "Oh, I thought it was the central-brain of the beeing"
07:22:17 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "we had the alltime discussion of the method of paying"
07:22:19 Teager: "@TJ....same stupod idea *lol*"
07:22:22 [PS]Faustus: "as some of you know, we've decided to change how ships are bought in-game... no longer will res be stripped off a planet to pay for new ships... instead we have two options... "
07:22:26 [eXS]Geo: ";-)"
* [MoA]Soul132 has entered the room...
* [ C `] Dwarden has entered the room...
07:22:44 [MoA]Bumblebee: "go on BIG F"
07:22:48 [ C `] Dwarden: "back"
* [BIS]Bionicman want to know how to increase font size in game chat his eys hurt
* [MoA]Soul132 has entered the room...
07:23:18 Teager: "increase it in your IE...."
07:23:22 [PS]Faustus: "first option, added a build screen to the game, where the high ranking players have a budget... and select which ships to be built from this budget making those ships available to the players."
07:23:44 [PS]Faustus: "second option, is the same, except building is AI controlled... as to be fair"
07:23:54 [DI]Vinco: "Option 1: Some high ranked players (HellGremlin) would abuse this system."
07:24:00 Chromix_: "AI controlled, else ppl will build what THEY want"
07:24:07 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "faustus"
07:24:09 [PS]Faustus: "I'm leaning towards option one, because it adds gameplay value to DS..."
07:24:09 [eXS]Geo: "1st might be a problem after reset"
07:24:14 [MoA]Bumblebee: "second one is my favorite"
07:24:14 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "have you every played allegiance?"
07:24:25 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "the "commander" role was very vital to the game"
07:24:25 [PS]Faustus: "@mad... nope"
07:24:29 Chromix_: "yep, nr1 may be abused all the time.."
07:24:32 Exile: "AI is not good at deciding"
07:24:36 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "he managed the budget of the team"
07:24:37 Exile: "I think opt1"
07:24:40 Teager: "@Vinco: Some Low ranked player s (Teager) would slap him then *gg*"
07:24:42 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "buying building and ships for players"
07:24:48 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "things like small ships where free"
07:24:49 [eXS]Hydronix: "not 1"
07:24:51 [DI]Vinco: "lol"
07:24:54 [eXS]Hydronix: "please 2"
07:24:54 [MoA]Lord Binary: "well, I have to try before .. so no vote ..."
19:30:02 [DI]-mac-: "AI controlled, minimizes 'overlords/power-mongers'"
07:24:58 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "but large ones such as bombers/capital ships"
07:25:01 Yidam: "plz, not option 1"
07:25:02 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "cost credits"
07:25:04 Chromix_: "exile: but AI will build in a certain ratio.. so there's a ship of each type continually avaviable until storage is filled"
07:25:12 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "and the commander had to decide whot o give them too"
07:25:18 [ C `] Dwarden: "what about combined?"
07:25:18 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "make option 1 with ships up to frigate are free"
07:25:21 Teager: "can anyone translate that options into german? ....sorry, but my english...."
07:25:25 [DI]Vinco: "I suggest we use the beta-server and moderators to test this before implementing it."
07:25:40 Teager: "that = these *g*"
07:25:40 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "a commander was slected in the beggining of every map by a vite"
07:25:42 Shigernafy: "does this mean there will be a shipyard of some sort, or is it within the jump gate, so to speak?"
07:25:43 [eXS]Dead-Eye: "Mom, what happens, when 2 ppls have the same rank?"
07:25:47 [DI]Snafu: "good idead vinco"
07:25:50 [MoA]Lord Binary: "oh, oh, bad omen for english test teager :]"
07:26:00 [PS]sunshine: "i'd prefer #2 for now .. can change it later on to bring more complexity & fun into the game ... or we need a ingame election for the commander .."
07:26:01 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "i agree Vinco"
07:26:08 Teager: "yeah, Lord B *g*"
07:26:08 [PS]Faustus: "@spirit... I assume transports, scouts, engineer, and frigates would always be available... anything larger has to be ordered... and you'll have to wait for it to be built"
07:26:12 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "i agree with sun"
07:26:14 Exile: "That's not good Chromih. Sometimes you need 20 trans, and no cap ship, and sometimes you need 5 cruz, but no trans"
07:26:16 [MoA]MacSinclair: "I have a 3rd idea, can we make a resource account, all planets pay 40% of therer resources to this account (tax), and the new ships will be only payed from this account !?!?"
07:26:21 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "a selected commander would be better"
07:26:31 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "@Faustus good idea"
07:26:35 [EvE]Big Poppa Mikey: "i like tax"
07:26:38 Killian: "can I idle in here?  "
07:26:41 Chromix_: "If there'd be an option that prevents players abusing #1 then I'd prefer it.. but as it's now I strongly suggest #2"
07:26:53 [eXS]Dead-Eye: "Hmm, the last suggestion from Faustus sounds good"
07:27:07 Chromix_: "Exile: as he wrote, its just for big ships"
07:27:08 [ C `] Dwarden: "i think building pool can help"
07:27:11 [MoA]Bumblebee: "yep - good F"
07:27:13 [ C `] Dwarden: "i'm player"
07:27:16 [ C `] Dwarden: "i want cruiser"
07:27:21 [PS]Faustus: "So it seems everyone thinks option #2 is best... AI controlled for now, perhaps later through testing we allow #1..."
07:27:21 Taelron: "have the ai tier the construction, it counts hull "classes" for each dread there has to be 2 cruisers, each of them need two destroyers and 1 supply, etc..."
07:27:22 [ C `] Dwarden: "i order shipyard to build cruiser"
07:27:28 [ C `] Dwarden: "and i need of course wait"
07:28:17 [DI]Snafu: "dont make it too complicated"
07:28:30 [PS]Faustus: "Well, the nice thing about AI is that I could put some story behind the ships available..."
07:28:30 [PS]sunshine: "sorry, afk"
07:28:31 [MoA]Lord Binary: "@F: bout beta testing after release: will it be possible to install two DS if volunteering for beta testing ?"
07:28:31 [ C `] Dwarden: "if i want this complicated then"
07:28:32 Yidam: "hmm, but what about ships that require special badges, if the 'commander' orders these ships and there is noone to fly them???"
* [BIS]Bionicman vote #2
07:28:43 [ C `] Dwarden: "you 1st need ship system parts"
07:28:45 [DI]Vinco: "Ahhh... interesting, Faust"
07:28:45 [ C `] Dwarden: "build"
07:28:48 [ C `] Dwarden: "or trade"
07:28:55 [ C `] Dwarden: "then collect and bring to shipyard"
19:34:07 [DI]-mac-: "or have engineers own the res the planets produce from their construction activities, and the engineers given the option to control when res is released for ship production?"
07:29:01 [ C `] Dwarden: "then you can build ship"
07:29:08 [ C `] Dwarden: "thats COMPLEX"
07:29:08 [eXS]Geo: "what about this: there is always a standard class of a ship ... but you have to build the special classes for yourself... like "Elite Assault Dread""
07:29:26 Chromix_: "Ai decides based on amout of stored ships, playernumber on server, rank and badges of players and considering amout of ressources what to build..."
07:29:36 [DI]Vinco: "Ohhhh... Nice idea, Geo!"
07:29:41 [PS]sunshine: "re"
07:29:43 [ C `] Dwarden: "Geo i'm with you"
* [PS]Faustus nods at Chromix_...
07:29:54 [ C `] Dwarden: "each flote have standart ship classes"
07:29:58 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "geo like adding certain componenets would make it a different ship"
07:30:04 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "that way everyone has a custom ship?"
07:30:06 [ C `] Dwarden: "any changes or new types need be builded"
07:30:16 [eXS]Geo: "and additionally for metaverse: you need special factories for different weapons..."
07:30:19 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "it would certainly changethe balance of things"
07:30:34 [eXS]Geo: "missile, mine, railgun, bomb factories"
07:30:34 [PS]Faustus: "@geo... possible... but that needs to be implemented before release... time is a factor"
07:30:35 [ C `] Dwarden: "geo yup and this increase transporting"
* [MoA]Lord Binary nods at MaDB
07:30:46 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "what about the engi badge of the ordering player makes the building speed??"
07:30:47 [PS]Faustus: "I need to keep this simple for now.."
07:30:53 Taelron: "that goes back to ship customization, you have a base hull and add systems as needed which determines your overall ship, if you go strong on wpns you may have to skimp on defense"
07:30:57 [ C `] Dwarden: "faustus ... if this is big problem to implement before release better not add it"
07:31:05 [DI]Snafu: "M>I>S>S>"
07:31:12 [MoA]Bumblebee: "yes - keep it simple"
07:31:17 [PS]sunshine: "i'd implement the Ai controll for now .."
07:31:26 Shigernafy: "can you add some sort of base of it.. and then expand into these ideas later, so it doesn't seem like radical game changes after release?"
07:31:27 [ C `] Dwarden: "ok we can try ai"
07:31:29 [MoA]Bumblebee: "we allways have time to test it after release"
07:31:32 [PS]sunshine: "can be changed later on"
* [BIS]Bionicman nods at [PS]sunshine...
07:31:37 [PS]sunshine: "yes"
07:31:44 [MoA]Bumblebee: "goood decission F"
07:31:45 [DI]Vinco: "Will the control be building hull classes or exact ships?"
07:31:53 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "i see some probs with ai"
07:32:04 [eXS]Geo: "hey, i have an idea to make this game more fun for all peoples...."
07:32:05 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "how does the ai know the player who wants the dread will use it for the good of the team"
07:32:12 Shigernafy: "i like the customization idea though. so maybe have the custom types (elite assult, etc) need to be built, so other customization can be added later more easily"
07:32:14 [BIS]Bionicman: "mabye later there could be room for turning sertain functions on manual on clan servers and mv ?"
07:32:16 [eXS]Geo: "what about campaigns..."
07:32:16 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "at least a human commander KNOWS the player"
07:32:18 [MoA]Bumblebee: "i see MORE probs. with the other one"
07:32:25 [PS]Faustus: "@vinco... it would pick from the list of available ships... based on what the players can use.."
07:32:44 Chromix_: "..can we get back to the point of discussion now... no need to switch to all kind of suggestions now... simply no time for it"
07:32:46 [PS]Faustus: "and some internal ecnomic logic"
07:32:57 [DI]Vinco: "so it may build, say, a torp cruiser for the one player with gold combat, who is flying a transport at the moment?"
07:33:05 Taelron: "problem with player control is if player A has a grudge on Player B, he might not let him have the ship he wants"
07:33:19 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "true post it in the forum and we can discuss the details there"
07:33:20 [eXS]Geo: "I always have to think about the Space-Lifeforms ... what about if a Mod is controlling such a lifeform ... and the people have to unite to kill or tame it!?"
07:33:27 Teager: "That's why I prefer real speaking and not chatting.....I allways loose the conncection/overview"
07:33:49 [PS]Faustus: "@taelron... well the ships the commander builds go into a pool, he wouldn't be able to build only for a certain person.."
07:34:05 Taelron: "k, gotch ya"
07:34:23 Chromix_: "another addition to AI build: if there is no ship of a class avaviable a player might click on it to "suggest" the AI building it (but not build immediatly) .. else the AI would spend res on that ship later on"
07:34:24 Shigernafy: "when are the new building types that were posted long ago coming into the game?"
07:34:25 [MoA]Bumblebee: "brb"
07:34:29 [DI]Vinco: "How will this work in metaverse, Faustus?"
07:34:45 [DI]Vinco: "In MV, perhaps make a clan pool from clan planets?"
07:35:02 [PS]Faustus: "hang... busy"
07:35:29 [MoA]Bumblebee: "back"
07:35:52 [PS]Faustus: "@shig... after the trading system implemented.."
07:36:10 [PS]Faustus: "k... back, wife had to talk with me.. "
07:36:12 Chromix_: "hmmmm..."
07:36:16 Taelron: "Will there be a priority list,ie it starts making a cruiser but the team desperately needs a engy, can they request the switch, place the 1st on hold till it finishes the trans then resume, or make both at once?"
07:36:17 [-[A]-]Dalle: "What about implementing ship change? say 2 commanders were in the game and guarding a planet than one was building up the planet ina engineer and the other one was guarding it with a destroyer or whatever and than they decide to change, therefor docking and changing personal and therefor changing the control of ships?"
* Teager is commiting suicide now....flyyyyyyyyiiiiiiinnnnnngggggg doooooooown frrrrrrroooooommmmmm a briiiiidgeeeee *splash*
07:36:33 [MoA]Patlukowsky_server: "Hoi Hoi"
07:36:48 [eXS]Hydronix: "hi pat"
07:37:01 [eXS]Geo: "@Teager: psst, please die more silently "
07:37:02 [PS]Faustus: "@dalle... very possible... put it into the suggestions forum"
07:37:05 [MoA]Soul132: "hi pat_server "
07:37:07 [DI]Vinco: "I guess that a ship returned to gate is returned to the pool?"
07:37:10 Shigernafy: "I think engineers will be available all the time"
07:37:21 Shigernafy: "only the higher ships will need to be built"
07:37:23 [PS]Faustus: "@vinco.. good ideal"
07:37:35 Shigernafy: "Don't know if that included "advanced" engineer though"
07:37:35 [-[A]-]Dalle: "ok faust"
07:38:15 Taelron: "i was using it as an example... you might want to field 4 destroyers quickly to defend agains smaller ships instead of waiting for 1 dread to finish"
07:38:22 [eXS]Geo: "Okay, new Client uploaded to mirror"
07:38:23 [MoA]MacSinclair: "hi Pat "
07:38:25 Yidam: "@vinco but there should be repair tim then for it if damaged"
07:38:43 [DI]Vinco: "I agree, Yidam."
07:38:56 [DI]Vinco: "Proportional to the amount of damage, but much less than a full build time"
07:39:24 Shigernafy: "yes, good point Tael.. I would think a queue would be nice, but you can move things up if its urgently needed (if a dread is at top, and you need the destroyer lower down NOW, or whatever)"
07:39:39 [ C `] Dwarden: "i really think ship build time improve strategy in game"
07:40:03 [ C `] Dwarden: "now is that quake ... get new ship after death is easier and faster as reapiring"
07:40:22 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "i would say every 5 active players on aside one more ship can be build parallel"
07:40:23 [PS]Faustus: "@dwarden.. I agree... which is why I really want to implement the build screen in-game, so players have to order certain ships to be built."
07:40:34 Shigernafy: "if we do get more customizable ships, we need to be able to install side mounted jets.. for faster turning, on dreads and such"
07:40:35 [ C `] Dwarden: "hehe"
07:40:39 [ C `] Dwarden: "time to put in credits"
07:40:51 [ C `] Dwarden: "pay 1000 credits and your cruiser will be builded 10% faster"
07:40:55 [ C `] Dwarden: ":)"
07:41:01 [ C `] Dwarden: "how made credits"
07:41:04 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "i like that"
07:41:05 [ C `] Dwarden: "make little trade"
07:41:08 [ C `] Dwarden: ":)"
07:41:09 [DI]Vinco: "I agree... Perhaps moderators can command build orders, with a "commander" class of player to be added later?"
07:41:09 Yidam: "hmm, what about a mixture: the overall queue is ai controlled, but players can adjust the position of the ships in it"
07:41:09 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "there should be ind ship yards"
07:41:13 Shigernafy: "good idea Spirit"
07:41:14 [eXS]Hydronix: "one question"
07:41:17 [MoA]Lord Binary: "good idea Dward"
07:41:18 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "where you can pay for your ships"
07:41:29 [eXS]Hydronix: "at which rank would be the rank to make ships?"
07:41:46 Chromix_: "Yidam: not adjust, just "suggest" so it'll be build slightly before standard ones, but not immediatly"
07:41:47 [ C `] Dwarden: "hmm new profession or badge"
07:41:52 [ C `] Dwarden: "shipbuilder"
07:41:54 [ C `] Dwarden: "lol"
07:42:08 [eXS]Hydronix: "and what is, if nobody got that rank"
07:42:11 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "not rank linked maybe linked to bonus prestige which u get for finishing maps and so playing in team"
07:42:12 [eXS]Hydronix: "no ships? "
07:42:12 Chromix_: "and if serveral ships are requested by players to be built they just get build in their standard order "
07:42:21 Killian: "sorry, im a little out of it, can you bring ure ship from game to game i.e. stored on mstr server"
07:42:23 Taelron: "lets be mare realistic, clans are important after release as they control economy. So ranking clan member on the server at the time would be the "Commander" for building with that clans resources"
07:42:35 [ C `] Dwarden: "hydro of course standart ships will be getting each time"
07:42:41 Shigernafy: "or have the commander, or commanders in the game be able to adjust the build order.. have a Fx screen or something to see the current build order"
07:42:41 [DI]Vinco: "@killian, only in metaverse"
07:42:50 [eXS]Hydronix: "ok"
07:42:51 Killian: "k"
07:42:52 [ C `] Dwarden: "but w/o this it can be harder, longer buildup times etc"
07:43:00 [ C `] Dwarden: "as example"
07:43:08 [ C `] Dwarden: "there was added Pulse shield"
07:43:14 [DI]Vinco: "afk"
07:43:15 [ C `] Dwarden: "but why is so easy to get"
07:43:21 Killian: "maybe you can have ship addons"
* [M,O,B.]NovaWave has entered the room...
07:43:24 [ C `] Dwarden: "ship w/o pulse shild is standart"
07:43:25 Killian: "extra guns"
07:43:28 Killian: "more shields etc"
07:43:28 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "hello all"
07:43:31 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: ":)"
07:43:33 [ C `] Dwarden: "ship w pulse shield is non standart"
07:43:48 [-[A]-]Dalle: "The combat dreadnought needs a pulse shield, its totally outbattled by the UGTO battle dread since it has EMP"
07:44:08 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "hey guys if your guy color during chat is blue who are you?"
07:44:13 [ C `] Faravid: "assault dread too"
* [M,O,B.]NovaWave waves to Shigernafy...
07:44:28 [PS]Faustus: "K... off to work"
07:44:33 [BIS]Bionicman: "right its realy needed o nthe dreds"
07:44:42 [DI]Vinco: "back"
07:44:46 [ C `] Faravid: "nova, there's no blue colored dudes"
07:44:46 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "oh ok"
07:44:50 [MoA]TJ.Storm: "just as info: i want chaffes or flares fpr the scouts"
07:44:58 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "i saw one last night at 11:10m pm"
07:45:01 Shigernafy: "suggestion forum"
07:45:02 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "ooh"
07:45:05 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "i like storm"
07:45:07 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "srry 1110 pm"
07:45:08 [ C `] Dwarden: "dalle"
07:45:10 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "countermeasures would be awesome"
07:45:14 [ C `] Dwarden: "EMP is non standart equipment"
07:45:20 [ C `] Dwarden: "to understood me"
07:45:26 [PS]sunshine: "blue ?"
07:45:26 [ C `] Faravid: "hmm..."
07:45:27 [ C `] Dwarden: "there exist two ships"
07:45:32 [ C `] Dwarden: "one have EMP and one not"
07:45:37 [ C `] Dwarden: "2nd one is standart"
07:45:45 Taelron: "Customer Service get their own color?"
07:45:45 [ C `] Dwarden: "same goes for icc with pulse shielf"
07:45:46 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "yes blue i swear it"
07:45:48 Chromix_: "move this discussion into suggestions forum.. as it'd be pointless in here.. things get said again and again..."
07:45:56 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "i thought it was a new admin"
07:46:03 [MoA]Bumblebee: "btw. sunshine - any news about the MUTE???"
07:46:06 [PS]sunshine: "can you remember the name ?"
07:46:17 [PS]sunshine: "no bumble  "
07:46:24 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "no srry didnt catch it "
07:46:35 [PS]sunshine: "agree with chromix, let's stop this discussion now ..."
07:46:38 [MoA]Bumblebee: ":-(((( too"
07:46:42 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "no bumble i swear it i wont lie to you sunshine"
07:47:00 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "anything else ont eh agenda?"
07:47:04 Shigernafy: "we don't know nova"
07:47:10 [PS]sunshine: "i'll ask faustus "
07:47:12 [PS]sunshine: "yes .."
07:47:16 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "oh alright i was just checking"
07:47:24 [PS]sunshine: "inactive mods :/"
07:47:36 [PS]sunshine: "i guess some of you already read my last posting in the priv mod forum"
07:47:48 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "i did"
07:47:48 [MoA]Bumblebee: "i did"
19:52:55 [DI]-mac-: "yes sunshine ... and gave my opinion "
07:47:52 [DI]Vinco: "I did"
07:47:56 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "ya i saw it"
07:47:56 [eXS]Hydronix: "me too"
07:47:57 [M,O,B.]NovaWave: "no srry i didnt"
07:47:59 [-[A]-]Dalle: "where is faustus ? he cant just leave  "
07:48:09 [MoA]Patlukowsky_server: "yes sunny"
07:48:10 [DI]Vinco: "Along the same route... Mods who don't pay."
07:48:14 [MoA]Lord Binary: "obviously he can ;>"
07:48:16 [EvE]Big Poppa Mikey: "i cant get into that forum"
07:48:25 [MoA]Bumblebee: "he can dalle he is the biiiig one"
07:48:37 [-[A]-]Dalle: ":P"
07:49:05 [PS]sunshine: "k @mikey"
07:49:18 [EvE]Big Poppa Mikey: "thanx"
07:49:44 [ C `] Faravid: "i do read the forum but rarely reply"
07:50:06 Shigernafy: "as do I.. I only have about 30 posts.. but I read it most every day"
07:50:23 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "i read the majority of what is postyed"
07:50:35 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "but rarely does a post need my opinion or feedback"
07:50:38 [PS]sunshine: "FYI, i started the thread "new forum" 1 month ago in the mod central ..."
07:50:45 [DI]Vinco: "check my post count... I'm active in forums. Too active."
07:51:10 [MoA]Bumblebee: "not as active as me "
07:51:13 [PS]sunshine: "the ones who have no acces to the priv forum ... or even no posting rights in the mod central should contact me via mail ( sunshine@palestar.com)"
07:51:17 [DI]Vinco: "And sun... do you want me to go through the general forum next week and clean out some of the clutter?"
07:51:30 [MoA]Patlukowsky_server: "lol bumble"
07:51:30 [PS]sunshine: "hmm .. donb't delete them .."
07:51:39 [DI]Vinco: "ok."
07:51:46 [DI]Vinco: "I'll see if any should be moved."
07:51:55 [PS]sunshine: "i'll open an archive for the general forum"
07:51:57 [ C `] Dwarden: "hmmm"
07:52:01 [DI]Vinco: "ok"
07:52:05 [ C `] Dwarden: "nice message i see"
07:52:17 [ C `] Dwarden: "this preview of PC anywhere expired 1 day ago"
07:52:27 [ C `] Dwarden: "hell i just installed this"
* [DI]-mac- whispered "if you're short-handed with forums maintenance, just let me know and I'll try to help out "
07:52:41 [ C `] Dwarden: "damn PCA virus"
* [ C `] Dwarden grins evilly ...
07:53:02 Taelron: "pcanywhere writes to the system dir and reg so if you uninstall and reinstall it does not reset your time out..."
07:53:14 [ C `] Dwarden: "i installed 10.5 version"
07:53:30 [ C `] Dwarden: "looks like it dislike full previous release"
07:53:33 [DI]Vinco: "afk for a sec. GIrlfriend visit "
07:54:18 [ C `] Dwarden: "gimme tips for great SSH remote contols "
07:54:37 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "dwarden"
07:54:40 [PS]sunshine: "got a few offers to moderate a forum .. same here ... choose a forum & email me"
07:54:42 [MoA]Bumblebee: "have to go now for 5 minutes - bb after it"
07:54:44 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "vnc is great for remote access"
07:54:46 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "and its free"
07:54:46 [PS]sunshine: "& thx "
07:54:47 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "any more topics??"
07:54:47 Taelron: "here is a trick for any symantec product, uninstall completely, reboot, manually removed the directory from program files and then reinstall, time out reset"
07:54:57 [ C `] Dwarden: "VNC is outdatted"
07:55:04 [MoA]TJ.Storm: "hm, is that all or what?"
07:55:33 [PS]sunshine: "i'm thinking about removing the mod rights from thos who didn't apply for the priv mod forum ..."
07:55:43 [ C `] Dwarden: "ok i bring up theme"
07:55:48 [PS]sunshine: "so when you've problems with the forum ... mail me please!"
07:55:50 [ C `] Dwarden: "Medias and DS presentation"
07:55:56 [EvE]Big Poppa Mikey: "i just did..."
07:56:03 [eXS]Hydronix: "is the official meeting over?"
07:56:07 [MoA]TJ.Storm: "then check your mail, sun"
07:56:17 [EvE]Big Poppa Mikey: "*emailing sunshine*"
07:56:28 [PS]sunshine: "last point .. newm oderators"
07:56:33 [ C `] Dwarden: "who there is cooperating with any media on previews?"
07:56:55 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "well im relaunching a website soon (19th)"
07:57:01 [PS]sunshine: "Taelron & Demorian were suggested ... anyone disagrees ?"
07:57:10 [DI]Vinco: "I agree to both"
07:57:16 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "and faustus is gonna do an interview when i get it done "
20:02:26 [DI]-mac-: "agree to both"
07:57:26 [MoA]Patlukowsky_server: "agree both"
07:57:28 [BIS]Bionicman: "no fine"
07:57:30 [EvE]Big Poppa Mikey: "no"
07:57:33 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "agree"
07:57:35 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "agree"
07:57:36 [EvE]Big Poppa Mikey: "agree to both"
07:57:40 [MoA]Soul132: "agree both"
07:57:42 [MoA]Lord Binary: "agree "
07:57:55 [ C `] Faravid: "they got my yes vote "
07:58:18 [MoA]FrankySZ: "agree"
07:58:21 [ C `] Dwarden: "more yes"
07:58:52 [el33t]captnsmooth: "hey chums"
07:58:54 Shigernafy: "yay for them: i vote yes"
07:59:00 [eXS]Hydronix: "agree"
07:59:02 [BIS]Bionicman: "ok"
07:59:28 [PS]sunshine: "okay ... some more suggestions ?"
* [DI]-mac- waves to [el33t]captnsmooth...
* [ C `] Dwarden waves to Taelron...
* Taelron waves to all...
* [el33t]captnsmooth slaps [DI]-mac- in the head...
20:05:30 [DI]-mac-: ":P"
20:05:47 [DI]-mac-: "mod abuse "
08:00:50 [el33t]captnsmooth: "anyways, i found out my math review was a complete waste of time, just like a big study orgy so i left"
08:00:54 [PS]sunshine: "ahhhhhh"
08:00:58 [PS]sunshine: "broadcast"
08:01:02 [el33t]captnsmooth: "what are we discussin?"
08:01:06 [MoA]TJ.Storm: "yes sun, chaffs and flares ,-)"
08:01:21 [el33t]captnsmooth: "use of the broadcast channel?"
08:01:25 [PS]sunshine: "nah, > suggetsions forum for all gameplay issues"
08:01:36 [el33t]captnsmooth: "hm, ok"
08:01:46 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Well one thing I'd like to see is a reverse thruster."
08:02:06 [el33t]captnsmooth: "maybe max of say 1/5 the regular speed of a ship."
08:02:16 [-[A]-]Dalle: "check out suggestions and bugs forum people...just posted something interresting"
08:02:17 Taelron: "a reverse "breaking" thruster should cause some damage due stress on the system"
08:02:30 [MoA]TJ.Storm: "collisions"
08:02:36 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "capt that could be kinda weird"
08:02:40 [el33t]captnsmooth: "How would it cause more stress?"
08:02:46 [DI]Vinco: "back"
08:03:01 [DI]Vinco: "Should we deal with the report channel as well, sun?"
08:03:01 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "capt its not often you have thruster in the FRONT of a ship"
08:03:08 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Just like the turn thing, you can turn both ways, so you should be able to go backwards as well as forwards."
08:03:11 [-[A]-]Dalle: "reverse thrusters would be cool but than if they were implementet the ships would have to be slower as well so there really would be need for them, and they'd have to look damn cool when fired "
08:03:14 Taelron: "miss read it the first time, thought you were bringing up the emergency breaking idea again"
08:03:24 [PS]sunshine: "IMO, there's no real need to use the broadcast ... use it only when it's really necessary"
08:03:28 [ C `] Faravid: "there's no gravity in space, taelron, so no stress and such"
08:03:35 Killian: "hey I have a suggestion"
08:03:44 Killian: "shouldnt planets have gravitational pulls?"
08:03:45 Killian: ":-)"
08:03:47 [MoA]MacSinclair: "It's time to go, cu all, good night to everyone "
08:03:55 [el33t]captnsmooth: "@MadB, why would you need thrusters in the front, to go backwards?"
08:03:57 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "fara, there is gravity, just no atmosphere "
* [DI]Vinco waves to [MoA]MacSinclair...
08:04:06 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "i can see why"
08:04:08 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "make engines more realistic"
08:04:14 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "i dont think it would look practical"
08:04:16 [MoA]TJ.Storm: "there is nothing"
08:04:17 [ C `] Faravid: "yeah madbiotch, but not so big gravity"
20:09:28 [DI]-mac-: "agreed, sunshine"
08:04:28 [MoA]Patlukowsky_server: "have to go cya"
08:04:30 [el33t]captnsmooth: "It doesnt matter where the engine is in a car, it can go forward and reverse."
08:04:43 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "heck, the dread is big enough to have its own gravitational pull"
08:04:48 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "its almost as big as luna"
08:04:48 [el33t]captnsmooth: "@Killian, planets I dont think have gravitational pulls, but stars do."
08:04:53 [DI]Vinco: "that's because the thrust is the wheels, captn..."
08:04:57 [-[A]-]Dalle: "yea but in space capn it has nothing to pull from"
08:04:58 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "capsmoth thats not the engine"
08:04:58 Shigernafy: "eh.. yeah.. but i think ship engines are LITTLE bit different captn"
08:04:59 [-[A]-]Dalle: "only air"
08:05:01 [-[A]-]Dalle: "space"
08:05:02 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "but the driveshaft"
08:05:04 [-[A]-]Dalle: "and matter"
08:05:07 Killian: "hmm"
08:05:12 [MoA]Spiritofthenight: "let them only use energy when u accelerate or decell. or turn your ship"
08:05:25 [-[A]-]Dalle: "have u never seen the sattelites using compressed air to turn and accelerate?"
08:05:26 [DI]Vinco: "@spirit YES!!!"
20:10:45 [DI]-mac-: "another topic: Moderator behavior in and out of game ..."
08:05:49 Shigernafy: "Ion engines"
08:06:01 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Well ok, maybe it wont work on the same principle, but think about it, when man does make space travel a common way of life, people are going to want to go backwards"
08:06:23 [-[A]-]Agent|2eason: "Hey everone, class just got out (Hopefully this will be the last meeting I will miss, "
08:06:26 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "smooth i agree it would be nice to have on SOME ocasions"
08:06:31 Shigernafy: "or have really good turning"
08:06:33 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "but for ds pusposes its useless"
08:06:47 [el33t]captnsmooth: "It's not useless."
08:06:55 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "there isnt much precision docking in ds as far as i know"
08:07:09 Shigernafy: "we should have 3D turning too.. if someone's chasing you, slam on the "flip" and turn upside down over them.. blast their engines.."
08:07:11 [el33t]captnsmooth: "I'm not talking about docking."
08:07:16 Shigernafy: "oh, wait.. "
08:07:24 [el33t]captnsmooth: "What if you miss a planet by like 2 gu from orbit."
08:07:32 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Your ship has to turn all the way around"
08:07:37 [el33t]captnsmooth: "just to get back into orbit."
08:07:43 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "yes"
08:07:47 [el33t]captnsmooth: "If we had reverse thrusters, you could just back up real fast"
08:07:55 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "and you should recite your prayers for not hitting the planet "
08:07:57 Shigernafy: "ah, patience is good for ya.."
08:08:05 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Could be useful for capturing planets"
08:08:07 [el33t]captnsmooth: "building, etc"
08:08:12 [-[A]-]Agent|2eason: "yep, right into the planet capt "
08:08:29 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Also, if you're chasing an enemy"
08:08:34 [-[A]-]Agent|2eason: "it would be usefull however...."
08:08:34 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "and plus"
08:08:39 [el33t]captnsmooth: "And you make the jump so precise that you jump on top of him"
08:08:39 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "engy/transports"
08:08:41 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "move fast nough"
08:08:43 [el33t]captnsmooth: "and he's almost dead"
08:08:50 [ C `] Dwarden: "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK"
08:08:51 [el33t]captnsmooth: "but you still want to kill him"
08:09:02 [el33t]captnsmooth: "but you dont want the damage from his explosion"
08:09:07 [ C `] Dwarden: "faustus moved servers to playnet and me getting 20% packet loss in USA"
08:09:11 [el33t]captnsmooth: "going forward can limit the firepower available"
08:09:14 [ C `] Dwarden: "strange"
08:09:14 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "i have a tractor beam for that smooth"
08:09:25 [el33t]captnsmooth: "since a lot of weapons are only front mount"
08:09:32 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Yes, but not everyone has a dreadnaught"
08:09:37 [el33t]captnsmooth: "actually, most people don't"
* [el33t]MaDB|otcH shrugs
08:09:52 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "then they need to adapt to the ship style"
08:10:00 [el33t]captnsmooth: "ugh"
08:10:02 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "you dont want to precise jump with a missile cruiser"
08:10:04 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "or destroyer"
08:10:19 [el33t]captnsmooth: "forget it, theres no convincing you "
08:10:28 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "hehe"
08:10:30 [el33t]captnsmooth: "jerk >:("
08:10:33 [el33t]captnsmooth: "hehe"
08:10:43 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "im just arguing cause i have nothing better to do"
08:10:47 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: ":_)"
08:11:01 [-[A]-]Agent|2eason: "Ah, just give him a slap upside the head capt, that should do it, "
08:11:02 [el33t]captnsmooth: "heh"
08:11:06 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Well anyways"
08:11:12 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Any other suggestions?"
08:11:12 [BIS]Bionicman: "talking gameplay on mod meetings hehe"
08:11:31 [MoA]TJ.Storm: "cows"
08:11:34 [el33t]captnsmooth: "If you look at the suggestions forum, I think we can disregard any of the suggestions that Elf has made."
08:11:39 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Such as the communications prestige."
08:11:48 [el33t]captnsmooth: "That's is just insane."
08:11:56 [el33t]captnsmooth: "If I got prestige for talking, I could be a fleet admiral."
08:11:58 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "lol"
08:12:01 [el33t]MaDB|otcH: "hurray for spamming"
08:12:03 [BIS]Bionicman: "hehe that would be the day"
08:12:14 [BIS]Bionicman: "make a bage to cover it "
08:12:25 [-[A]-]Agent|2eason: "lol, once you get it, it should demote you, "
08:12:34 [el33t]captnsmooth: "Rofl"
08:12:36 [PS]sunshine: "okay m8's ... official meting is over now ... so far "
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shadedancer
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| Posted: 2001-12-11 04:34
upon reading this two points come to me mind (please flame me ):
- we should have an Agenda in advance (best even posted) to the modforum, so we can discuss Topics decently. (That would be sunshines job atm => collecting topics, post an official agenda, so we won't get that much sidetracked.)
- we should maintain a bit more discipline on mod meetings, it's a bit difficult to read.
just me 0.02 €
yours shadedancer 
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| Posted: 2001-12-11 06:55
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On 2001-12-11 04:34, shadedancer wrote:
just me 0.02 €
yours shadedancer
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*lol* ...
you're right .. i already tried to collect some topics in the beginning .. with .. hmm .. minimal success :/
i'll collect the topics for the next meeting, hope it'll work better now .. we can discuss gameplay issues too, but let's finish the official part first next time, so the ones who've to go earlier don't miss anything ...
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