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zendrix
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Joined: September 19, 2001
Posts: 31
Posted: 2005-05-04 22:07   
Today is May 4th. To all you Star Wars fans out there...

MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU.

~ladies and gentleman, i've broke new grounds in my personal nerdiness~
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Joined: March 21, 2002
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From: Canada
Posted: 2005-05-04 22:10   
groan...


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From: South Philly
Posted: 2005-05-04 22:23   
...
I'm tempted to look up the CTRL-ALT-DEL response to how I feel about SW, but for now I'll just say this....

Midichlorians.
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Joined: March 23, 2003
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From: Bristol, England
Posted: 2005-05-04 22:23   
That was a very bad joke..

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Posted: 2005-05-04 22:40   
What is so special about May 4th?
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Posted: 2005-05-04 23:22   
That joke is so yesterday
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Hellza - Dark Master
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Joined: June 06, 2004
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Posted: 2005-05-05 01:37   
well its been a whole month of me and my g/f been together.. and there is pelanty more to come
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Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 1955
From: Denmark
Posted: 2005-05-05 03:08   
may 4th

WW2

all remaning german troups surrender in holland belgium and denmark

by that official ending the war and ocupation of those countries.

mile stone
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philll
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Joined: September 13, 2003
Posts: 268
Posted: 2005-05-05 03:44   
how can u not know that?
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From: Arlington, VA
Posted: 2005-05-05 07:47   
Zendrix, Im nerdier. I have opening day tickets...
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From: Pittsburgh,Pa. USA
Posted: 2005-05-05 10:31   
I don't get it
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Joined: October 22, 2004
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From: Florida
Posted: 2005-05-05 15:38   
im lost

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Posted: 2005-05-05 17:35   
errr.. dosent SW III come out 19th of May.. dosent matter if downloded it.. wehehe
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From: Straight Outta Boston!
Posted: 2005-05-06 01:33   
Quote:

On 2005-05-05 03:08, Ragglock wrote:
may 4th

WW2

all remaning german troups surrender in holland belgium and denmark

by that official ending the war and ocupation of those countries.

mile stone




As far as history is concerned, VE Day is May 8th 1945, not the 4th.
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Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 1955
From: Denmark
Posted: 2005-05-06 03:47   
All German troops in Denmark holland official surrendered to the English on the morning of 5 May 1945, except for those stationed on Bornholm which lay within the Soviet theatre of operations. The island was not liberated until 8 May 1945.

by that ending the war in northen part of eu.


time line:

On 3 May 1945 the allies captured Hamburg and Oldenburg effectively ending any hopes the Germans may have had of retiring into Denmark or Norway. On this date Germany then sent a mission to Field Marshall Montgomery, headed by Admiral von Friedeberg, commander of the German Navy. The admiral requested Montgomery to accept the surrender of three German armies retreating before the Russians. Montgomery replied, "No, certainly not. Those armies are fighting the Russians ... I have nothing to do with happenings in the Eastern front. You must surrender to the Soviet commander ...". Montgomery then asked them if they were prepared to surrender their forces in the northwest including Denmark and Holland. After an extensive situation briefing by Montgomery this was agreed to.

At 0800 hours 5 May 1945 German forces in the Netherlands, Denmark and North-West Germany surrendered to 1 Canadian Corps. That afternoon, at Wageninggen, Holland, Colonel General Von Blaskowitz formally surrendered his 120,000 men to General Charles Foulkes, Commander 1st Canadian Corps.


the official dokument follows:


Quote:

SURRENDER OF GERMANY

INSTRUMENT of SURRENDER of all German armed forces in Holland, in northwest Germany including all islands, and in Denmark to Field Marshal Sir Bernard L. Montgomery, General Commanding in Chief, 21st Army Group


Near Luneburg. May 4, 1945. [1]

1. The German Command agrees to the surrender of all German armed forces in Holland, in northwest Germany including the Frisian Islands and Heligoland and all other islands, in Schleswig-Holstein, and in Denmark, to the C.-in-C. 21 Army Group. This to include all naval ships in these areas. These forces to lay down their arms and to surrender unconditionally.

2. All hostilities on land, on sea, or in the air by German forces in the above areas to cease at 0800 hrs. British Double Summer Time on Saturday 5 May 1945.

[1] This first instrument of surrender by Germany of the areas indicated
was superseded by the Rheims instrument of May 7 and the Berlin instrument
of May 8 (see following documents). Department of State Bulletin,
July 22, 1945.

Page 40
3. The German command to carry out at once, and without argument or comment, all further orders that will be issued by the Allied Powers on any subject.

4. Disobedience of orders, or failure to comply with them, will be regarded as a breach of these surrender terms and will be dealt with by the Allied Powers in accordance with the accepted laws and usages of war.

5. This instrument of surrender is independent of, without prejudice to, and will be superseded by any general instrument of surrender imposed by or on behalf of the Allied Powers and applicable to Germany and the German armed forces as a whole.

6. This instrument of surrender is written in English and in German. The English version is the authentic text.

7. The decision of the Allied Powers will be final if any doubt or dispute arises as to the meaning or interpretation of the surrender terms.

FRIEDEBURG.
B. L. MONTGOMERY KINSEL.
Field-Marshal G. WAGNER.
4 May 1945 POLECK
1830 hrs. FRIEDEL




some history for you guys to chew on

and why 4 may is an important date for some, lets just say i would be speaking russian if this had not happend on this date, in the end it was a question of landgrab (what the Soviet took they kept).

Denmark was only 6 hours from getting (liberatet) by the Soviet


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