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Ugto Harrier Frig: Gem in the Rough? |
Delando
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Joined: May 04, 2007
Posts: 260
|  Posted: 2013-04-16 16:28
Been a while since i wrote one of these:
In these days of Dreadspace, its extremly difficult to fly anything smaller than a crusie to survive, let alone Effective in combat.
Today I offer a solution for those new to the game or Dread tired vets.
UGTO Harrier Frig: 6 Sparrow heavy Tier1 missiles and 3 ECM!!!
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same Solvo power as a missile Dressy but invisble:
Deep Space
Sig @ 18.2 gu --> Negative 0.5
Deep Space Kaus (Central sysm in Meta)
Sig@ 18.2 gu --> Negative 6.6
Which mean u can run and fire full solvos, and still be at Negative sig.
Cool Huh?
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Sheraton*XO*
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Faster than Light
Joined: January 18, 2013
Posts: 482
From: Keel Mountains
| Posted: 2013-04-16 16:39
I do remember engaging you in that frigate multiple times. all of them ended in you running for lack of ammo or in me killing you. So I would debate the usefullness of the harrier frigate as anything more than a harrassment tool.
but still if you want to use it then you can.
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Delando
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Joined: May 04, 2007
Posts: 260
| Posted: 2013-04-16 17:20
@Sherton most of the engagement we have yesterday were close by to ur friendly planet, where my ecm were less effective. had we been in deep space, u wouldnt have seen me or my missiles
but yes, there is a limit to what the harrier frig could do to ur ICC Combat Dread with out support.
however, u did have any idea how survivable that frig was compaired to other small ships ai or player, i hope.
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*FTL*Soulless
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Joined: June 25, 2010
Posts: 787
From: Dres-Kona
| Posted: 2013-04-16 18:05
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On 2013-04-16 17:20, Delando wrote:
@Sherton most of the engagement we have yesterday were close by to ur friendly planet, where my ecm were less effective. had we been in deep space, u wouldnt have seen me or my missiles
but yes, there is a limit to what the harrier frig could do to ur ICC Combat Dread with out support.
however, u did have any idea how survivable that frig was compaired to other small ships ai or player, i hope.
[ This Message was edited by: Delando on 2013-04-16 17:23 ]
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actully you could see the missles...and tracing them back can find the source 
but smaller ships generaly are more surivible provided you dont have a fool at the wheel
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SpaceAdmiral
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Joined: May 05, 2010
Posts: 1005
| Posted: 2013-04-17 01:42
Harrier frigs just need an ammo buff, nothing too drastic but allows more prolonged harassment before your quick reload retreat to a nearby plat.
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Talien
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Joined: May 11, 2010
Posts: 2044
From: Michigan
| Posted: 2013-04-17 04:07
Not even that, just de-nerfing the T1 missiles and restoring them to the way they were originally would work wonders.
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DiepLuc
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Joined: March 23, 2010
Posts: 1187
| Posted: 2013-04-18 13:26
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| On 2013-04-16 16:28, Delando wrote:
In these days of Dreadspace, its extremly difficult to fly anything smaller than a crusie to survive, let alone Effective in combat. |
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I was usually in frigate, it's good enough to survive.
And if you're in scout, you almost secure your life. BTW, you can die in scout without losing any prestige. So scout is actually the one and only class that only bring prestige.
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Walrus of Apathy
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Joined: August 07, 2005
Posts: 466
From: Dorans Basement
| Posted: 2013-04-18 13:50
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On 2013-04-18 13:26, DiepLuc wrote:
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| On 2013-04-16 16:28, Delando wrote:
In these days of Dreadspace, its extremly difficult to fly anything smaller than a crusie to survive, let alone Effective in combat. |
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I was usually in frigate, it's good enough to survive.
And if you're in scout, you almost secure your life. BTW, you can die in scout without losing any prestige. So scout is actually the one and only class that only bring prestige.
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Actually Frigates do that too.
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Fattierob
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Joined: April 25, 2003
Posts: 4059
| Posted: 2013-04-18 15:28
Any ship you can spawn for free from a gate can die for free.
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The Fridge
Chief Marshal
Templar Knights
Joined: December 13, 2008
Posts: 559
From: In Your Fridge, Eating your Foods.
| Posted: 2013-04-18 16:11
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On 2013-04-18 15:28, Fattierob wrote:
Any ship you can spawn for free from a gate can die for free.
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Delando
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Joined: May 04, 2007
Posts: 260
| Posted: 2013-04-18 19:41
Just successfully completed a 3rd test of the Harrier frig in Kaus sector, kill 1 ICC player Heavy crusier ( claimed to be dycinc, cant confirm), hull a different ICC player HC to 18%hull before he ran under PD cover of a AD.
Both cases neither ships were able to PD my missile solvo on their own. Neither were able to actively target me runing @18.2gu at -6.6sig.
I had no AI suport other than calling a suppy to keep my ammo up.
Procced to engage Sherton's Combat dread ( who posted here), this time he was not able to PD most of my missiles, likely due to the nebula covering all of Kaus. deshield /dearmor him to 60%shield/70% armor before he kill my suppy and i ran out of ammo.
Overall evaluation:
moderately successfull under single-single ship engagment, able to hull ships upto Cruiser class with out supply.
I suspect it would be more difficlut with more AI in the area with their added PD and ECCM.
I do not recomend its use close to planets under 1500gu, missiles will be PDed.
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Fluttershy
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Joined: September 24, 2011
Posts: 778
From: Fluttershy
| Posted: 2013-04-18 21:32
Me and a few others teamed up with a squad of these things. I think it was like 4 of us?
We basically drove off everyone that showed their face.
We would spread out, and while one of us gets ambushed, the others jump in and sync fire, while the one that got closed on e-jumps a ways.
It got really irritating once a K'Luth Siphon showed up, though.
They just roam around under cover of cloak, we e-jump as soon as he starts to uncloak (still took massive damage... stupid lag) and the others start bombarding him, but he just cloaks straight away.
It's situations like that I wish we had a heavy torpedo frigate.
To hell with lasers, to hell with cannons, to hell with EWAR, just put all the points into forward arc torpedoes, then we'd have an actual low rank counter to those damned meat sacks.
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Borgie
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Joined: August 15, 2005
Posts: 2256
From: close by
| Posted: 2013-04-19 08:47
i've noticed with missles in general you can't see them with out using a scanner,( human missles) yesterday i got attacked by mousey in SS he luanched harpex, and i wasn't able to see or PD the missles unless i had ai around me. now granted i was in a EAD which has no scanner or eccm which in that sense is a fail on my part.
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Walrus of Apathy
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Joined: August 07, 2005
Posts: 466
From: Dorans Basement
| Posted: 2013-04-19 10:28
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On 2013-04-18 21:32, Fluttershy wrote:
It's situations like that I wish we had a heavy torpedo frigate.
To hell with lasers, to hell with cannons, to hell with EWAR, just put all the points into forward arc torpedoes, then we'd have an actual low rank counter to those damned meat sacks.
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Ask and ye shall receive:
M-41T Torpedo Frigate
Layout:
- 1x Tachyon Drive
- 2x IE Drive
- 4x Active Shields (1 F, 1 P, 1 S, 1 A)
- 3x Composite Armor (1 F, 1 A, 1 Full)
- 1x Pulse Shield
- 1x Full-arc PD Beam
- 2x Tri-arc Fusion Torpedo (2 FPS)
- 4x Dual-arc Fusion Torpedo (2 FP, 2 FS)
- 2x Fore-arc Fusion Torpedo
- 2x ECM
- 2x Auxiliary Fusion Generator ( 1 P, 1 S )
Or perhaps UGTO's got your wiles...
ST-14 Gyrfalcon Frigate
Layout:
- 1x Tachyon Drive
- 2x IE Drive
- 7x Standard Armor (2x F, 1x P, 1x S, 2x A, 1x Full)
- 1x Flux Wave
- 1x Full-Arc PD Beam
- 8x Dual arc Proton Torpedo (4x FP, 4x FS)
- 2x ECM
- 1x Auxiliary Power Generator
The ICC one should be in beta if beta would be bothered to work for the moment.
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Fattierob
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Joined: April 25, 2003
Posts: 4059
| Posted: 2013-04-19 12:08
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On 2013-04-19 10:28, Walrus of Apathy wrote:
Ask and ye shall receive:
M-41T Torpedo Frigate
Layout:
- 2x Tri-arc Fusion Torpedo (2 FPS)
- 4x Dual-arc Fusion Torpedo (2 FP, 2 FS)
- 2x Fore-arc Fusion Torpedo
ST-14 Gyrfalcon Frigate
- 8x Dual arc Proton Torpedo (4x FP, 4x FS)
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Pirates scoff at your puny weapons loadout.
edit: Gyrfalcon? Seriously? See me after class Walrus
[ This Message was edited by: Fattierob on 2013-04-19 12:08 ]
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