On 2011-04-19 18:56, Delando wrote:
These ECM stealth bomber are super annoying and deadly effective.

I think it was the UGTO that first stated using em, not sure. Was in kluth trying hard to def against em.

and failing.

Kluth victory was almost complete at this time, all but a few stayed ugto. but basicly 3 guys, RSM steveyk, nemesis and on other (was it redbandit?) sent R33 in to chaos.

These have 3 ECM each, can see em till about 300 gu, and about 12 sec JD recharge. They can take a Disco down with to hits <-- at this point u can't stop em. Planet def dosent seem to effect em at all, dont know if this is intended.

We tried all kinds of ways to get em, in Dreads, in Dressies, Scouts, Dictors. and sure we get a few of em, but they're back 2min later.

Which is the best thing about em, they're good to go STOCK.

I was about to cry faul till i tried em in ICC against UGTO planets, and it's bloody amazin, evey faction can use it then it is a valiad strategy.

These combined with a few tranny rush make it even more effective, u dont even have to sit around to cap any more.
Go try em out!

On 2011-04-20 04:08, Alex Heartnet (Rebellious Rogue) wrote:
Except that ICC planetary shields make a planet effectively immune to bomber frigate raids. A lone bomber frigate just doesn't carry enough firepower to get past the shield, forcing the frigate to pick a different target.

On 2011-04-20 05:02, Brahmastra wrote:
Lets get rid of the ECM devices from human ships. K'Luth need a stealth impunity.

Or, increase resource cost of bombs so that some EW systems can be removed from bomber frigates, which can extend to the new bomber cruisers and dreads.

Or, make frigates easier to kill. When was the last time you killed a frigate who wanted to run? Rarely, because a) they are very fast and maneuver out of destroyer (and larger) attacks well, b) they have a nice 6-plate armor and c) both frigate and scout weapons are too weak to traumatise a frigate.

Or, increase maximum platform count so that we can place 5 sensor platforms near every planet.

Ever noticed that the bomber frigate got more EW than bomber scouts? Give bomber frigates less EW, and bomber scouts more of EW.

Or make bombs heavier, so as to reduce mobility and thrust of bomber frigates. Lightning-quick ninjas are OP anyway.

Bombers should be big, fat and slow ships meant to cause a lot of damage to planets. Small bombers can do only tidbits of damage at a time, but are fast enough to return back and continue.

With all serious, I'm in favour of ridding the ECM from human frigates. ECM bombing is OP now, as compared to v1.5 when PD could be used by planets.

HintHint - Or maybe bring back a few beams for the anti-bomb bases. Something is better than nothing, and still not equal to everything (lag).

On 2011-04-20 07:29, -Apocalypse- (Lock N Load) wrote:
bomber frigs are epic and should be kept as they are, theres no need to nerf something that doesnt need nerfing, and anyways, why are luth complaining they already have plenty of advantages of both factions, and if you want to get rid of bomber frigs luth just point jump or cloak up to the frig, decloak, and pop because its ecm lowers your sig so you decloak faster. thats one of the reasons why i hate luth, they are a little OP compared to other factions because they have cloaks, self reps, fast JDs, huge arrays of beams and torps..... the list goes on, but we UGTO, we dont have none of that, we have our Ship, our Gunz and our crew.... and we'll stick it out to the last, not cloak and run away like a coward, thats what i see luth as, cowards. one idea would be to make luth sacrifice weapons for the cloak, instead of armour, why sacrifice armour when you can rep it to full in the middle of a battle in about 2 mins? thats a stupid thing to do, remove weapons and add armour, or just remove AHR..... sorry for the rant about luth, but all that is why they have such a large number of players, it takes no skill to play as luth, all you need for luth is a V key, a J key, a mouse and a spacebar..... peace -Apoc-


[ This Message was edited by: Phreak on 2011-04-20 08:42 ]

On 2011-04-20 07:29, -Apocalypse- (Lock N Load) wrote:
bomber frigs are epic and should be kept as they are, theres no need to nerf something that doesnt need nerfing, and anyways, why are luth complaining they already have plenty of advantages of both factions, and if you want to get rid of bomber frigs luth just point jump or cloak up to the frig, decloak, and pop